Siambr · Member of the Senedd · Register of record
Huw Irranca-Davies
Tenures
- Fifth Senedd Afan Ogwr Rhondda Welsh Labour and Co-operative Party
- Sixth Senedd Afan Ogwr Rhondda Welsh Labour and Co-operative Party
- Seventh Senedd Afan Ogwr Rhondda Welsh Labour and Co-operative Party
Ministerial roles
No ministerial roles on record.
Contributions, by sitting day
833 contributions on record, newest first. Official verbatim record.
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Open this sitting on the stage
3. Questions to the Senedd Commission en
The Commission supports Welsh businesses by making procurement opportunities both visible and accessible. All suppliers are treated fairly and consistently under procurement law. Contracts worth more than £30,000 are advertised on Sell2Wales, allowing companies to express an interest and to tender. We also explore the market; we identify potential Welsh suppliers and alert them to suitable opportunities. We monitor spending with Wales-based suppliers through a corporate key performance indicator reported annually. At present, that is being exceeded—it's 55 per cent against our target of 50 per cent. For larger contracts involving subcontractors, we seek opportunities for Welsh businesses to join supply chains. These measures strengthen participation while maintaining an open, transparent and legally compliant procurement process for all involved.
3. Questions to the Senedd Commission en
Indeed. Well, one of the good illustrations of this is, of course, what we do in terms of the contract we have here with the public food suppliers. Interestingly, I noted that we're exceeding the KPI in aggregate by 55 per cent against our target of 50 per cent, but actually the food procurement by our catering suppliers here, using good Welsh suppliers that do, indeed, break down the individual contracts to really favour smaller suppliers within the Welsh food supply chain, they are achieving in excess of 70 per cent with Welsh suppliers. So, we're actually doing well. But we're always open to more ideas. I'll take away the thoughts that you've given us and see whether we can disaggregate the data even more. But I have to say the story is one of positive success.
3. Questions to the Senedd Commission en
Diolch. The Commission already has safeguards in place that restrict filming and recording on the Senedd estate without relevant authorisation. Importantly, those restrictions are technology neutral, and they apply regardless of whether recording is undertaken using conventional equipment, a phone, smartglasses or any other device. However, we recognise that wearable and AI-enabled technologies are developing rapidly. I've therefore commissioned a review of our policies and guidance to ensure that they remain effective and keep pace with these developments. Our aim is to ensure that Members and their staff, Commission officials and the Senedd estate are properly protected, while allowing the legitimate benefits of new technologies, including, by the way, accessibility benefits, to be realised where their use is appropriate and properly authorised.
3. Questions to the Senedd Commission en
Thank you very much. First of all, on the Cabinet Office, the Cabinet Office may have made a decision on this, and it's perfectly open to Welsh Government to make a decision on how they pursue this policy as well. Also, courts and tribunals have banned the use of film and recording devices outright. Just to reiterate, there is a clear ruling here already, in a technology-neutral way, on any filming and recording device on the Senedd premises. I shouldn't need to remind Members of that. They're fully aware, they went through induction, everybody's aware. I've written out subsequently as well. On the issue of equity, that's a valid point. It's been raised by other Members. I've actually had some very good written representations about ideas that could be fed into the review. So, I would strongly suggest that all Members, actually, contribute to this review going forward, but recognising that some of this assistive technology has benefits, not least that it has been identified by many within the disability lobby as well to say, 'We want to see the proper, appropriate, authorised use of this in the right situation.' So, I can just give a further brief update. The initial review of smartglasses and other advancing technologies is now well advanced. I'll be writing to Members before recess to set out further explanation of the way in which the review will carry out its work, including the ways in which Members will be able to participate so that all views can then be taken into account. Just to say, if we get to this point at the speed that we are going, we will be ahead of other Parliaments in actually putting the right procedures in place for this technology.
3. Questions to the Senedd Commission en
Simply to add to what I was saying, I think all views are welcome in this. That does include those from organisations outside who do see legitimate use of assistive technology. However, we also need those views about, where any filming and recording devices are used, whether our rules are currently fit for purpose or not, and where these devices may be used in future. So, I'm not pre-empting any outcome of that review, but we're moving on at pace and we do want all views to be heard. Meanwhile, as I said in the opening part of my answer, the issue here is the integrity of this place, both for Members, staff, visitors and all others who use this, to know that we can do our business in the way that we want it to be done properly.
3. Questions to the Senedd Commission en
Thank you. The Commission’s broadcasting policy drew on a report by an independent adviser, which examined the Senedd’s historical position, looked at five other legislatures and considered relevant policy principles. I recently agreed that this policy could be reviewed. In September, Commissioners were asked to consider four options. It was determined that further consultation was required between the Commission and party groups, and this is now under way, with officials already having met or briefed most party groups.
3. Questions to the Senedd Commission en
So, Catherine, we are keeping consistency here that this is appearing in every Commissioner's questions, but simply to say the independent adviser's report remained part of the evidence that was also presented to Commissioners. That included, by the way, comparison with Australia, Canada, New Zealand, Westminster and Victoria and other parliaments. But the framework we're now using is one that looks at transparent, objective criteria rather than judgments about individual broadcasters' particular viewpoints and so on. The original policy, by the way, that stands at the moment to amend what channels were available on internal tvs was agreed by the majority of the previous Commissioners, and in answer to your point, it ensures access to channels that have public service obligations and also provides one additional news channel, Sky News, to ensure plurality of news stations. You asked whether we're getting on with it: yes, as I said in my opening remarks, we're already engaging with political groups.
3. Questions to the Senedd Commission en
The Member tempts me to pre-empt where the review is going and also to pre-empt the views of individual Commissioners. There are four Commissioners that sit with me in deliberation on this and I think, out of respect for them, I have to wait to see the views of Members being put forward. They'll have heard the views put forward by all Members and will come to, I'm sure, a good and fair and reasonable decision on the four options that have been put in front of them. By the way, just to remind Members, one of those options is, of course, focusing on the primary use of parliamentary monitors on the estate, which is to inform Members of what is going on in this place. However, there are also alternative views that say that Members should have ready access to breaking news and so on. We're comparing with other Parliaments as well as to what is currently done there. So, all views are genuinely welcomed.
3. Questions to the Senedd Commission en
Diolch. The Commission cannot formally mandate training for Members, who are of course elected office holders, or their staff, who are employed by those individual Members. However, the Commission treats learning or briefings that inform and protect Members, their staff and the Senedd from legal, regulatory or reputational risk as necessary and recommend them as essential. We provide training and support to help Members understand their responsibilities and ensure their staff are appropriately trained, and we continue to promote participation through accessible, appropriately sequenced provision. Participation by Members and Member support staff is vital. It has been particularly helpful in the past when party groups have required their Members to attend particular training, while employing Members may require—and, depending on the subject, may be responsible for ensuring—that their staff complete appropriate training.
3. Questions to the Senedd Commission en
Diolch yn fawr. I think I've mentioned the point in terms of mandatory training. Members are elected office holders, so we cannot formally mandate training for Members, but you rightly raise the issue of the role of group offices. In the interests of their Members and their staff, we've stressed how critical we see these opportunities that are provided. If it is of help to Members, once again, I can happily write out to Members and business managers to explain to them how they can direct their Members to safeguarding training. The safeguarding policy statement is on the hwb online and includes, by the way, matters such as appointing a safeguarding lead, safer recruitment, secure record keeping, reporting arrangements, safe physical and digital environments, and much more as well. So, we're providing every possible opportunity that there can be, both for Members' benefit and for their staff's benefit. I'll take away and consider, Sera, from the question whether it would be helpful to write out once again to business managers and Members to remind them of how they can do this.
3. Questions to the Senedd Commission en
Yes, we've stressed—I stressed in my opening remarks—how we consider that this training that we offer is vital. It really is. And it's also vital for the protection of the individual Members as well, because they know that if they've undertaken the training, they are better protected themselves, and so are their staff. And also the public then can have confidence. But, again, I come back to the point here: we can do a lot through business managers, we can do a lot through individual Members. We are making this very easily accessible to Members, but perhaps I could stress how critical this training is, to then appeal to all Members and business managers to take it back to their groups and encourage their Members to do it.
3. Questions to the Senedd Commission en
Commission officials are responsible for deciding what products are available in the Senedd shop. Products stocked are regularly reviewed and updated. Goods for sale in the shop range from, but are not exclusive to, branded souvenirs, local artisan goods, Welsh food and drink, and products that inform and engage on a broad range of topics. A comprehensive review to inform a refreshed shop strategy has been under way since July and has included support from an independent retail consultant. A refreshed shop strategy will go to Commissioners for consideration in the coming months.
3. Questions to the Senedd Commission en
Like most parliamentary gift shops, the Senedd shop sells a broad mix of products. We're always looking for ways to improve the gift shop and we welcome Members' and customers' feedback. But the Senedd Commission is also firmly committed to advancing diversity and inclusion, ensuring that the Senedd is welcoming and accessible and representative of the people of Wales. So, it's no surprise that that approach may be reflected in some of the items available for purchase.
3. Questions to the Senedd Commission cy
Diolch, Lindsay. Rydym yn cydnabod pa mor bwysig yw gwaith allgymorth cymunedol o ran helpu pobl i ddeall gwaith y Senedd. Yn ystod y flwyddyn ddiwethaf, mae ein tîm addysg ac ymgysylltu â phobl ifanc wedi cyflwyno 29 o sesiynau allgymorth mewn ysgolion, colegau a grwpiau ieuenctid yn yr ardal, gan weithio gyda mwy na 2,000 o bobl ifanc. Mae 11 o sesiynau addysg eraill wedi’u cynnal yma ym Mae Caerdydd, a hynny gyda 337 o bobl ifanc o’r ardal. Yn ystod cyfnod yr etholiad, fe wnaethom ni waith allgymorth mewn cymunedau ar draws pob etholaeth, gan ddefnyddio sesiynau sydyn a sgyrsiau mewn lleoliadau cymunedol cyfarwydd i ymgysylltu’n uniongyrchol â phobl leol, ateb eu cwestiynau, a gwella’u dealltwriaeth o rôl y Senedd. Roedd hwn yn cynnwys gweithgarwch ym Mlaenau Gwent Caerffili Rhymni.
Official English translation
Thank you, Lindsay. We recognise how important community outreach work is in supporting and understanding the work of the Senedd. During the last year, our education and youth engagement team has delivered 29 outreach sessions in schools, colleges and youth groups in the area, working with more than 2,000 young people. A further 11 education sessions have been held here in Cardiff Bay, involving 337 young people from that area. During the election period, we took our outreach into communities across all constituencies, using pop-ups and conversations in familiar community settings to engage directly with local people, to answer their questions, and to increase understanding of the Senedd's role. This included activity in Blaenau Gwent Caerffili Rhymni.
3. Questions to the Senedd Commission en
We've received a fair bit of recognition in the Senedd, actually, for our outreach work. I mentioned in my opening response the 29 outreach sessions within that local area—within your constituency—within the last year. We could always do more, of course, and our team is keen to get out there, and invites Members along as well, because we think Members here, across the Siambr, are an important part of that engagement process.
3. Questions to the Senedd Commission cy
Mae'n bwysig iawn.
Official English translation
It is very important.
3. Questions to the Senedd Commission en
We'll continue with that. I think it's a very important part of spreading the message and the understanding of what we do here, and how schools can engage, and how their voice can be heard as well, bringing it back to the Siambr. Thank you for the question; it's very helpful indeed.
6. Members' Legislative Debate under Standing Order 11.21(iv): An NHS first Bill cy
Diolch, Weinidog Cabinet. Galwaf ar Gwyn Williams i ymateb i'r ddadl.
Official English translation
Thank you, Cabinet Minister. I call on Gwyn Williams to reply to the debate.
6. Members' Legislative Debate under Standing Order 11.21(iv): An NHS first Bill cy
Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn y cynnig? A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? [Gwrthwynebiad.] Gohiriaf y bleidlais o dan yr eitem hon tan y cyfnod pleidleisio.
Official English translation
The proposal is to agree the motion. Does any Member object? [Objection.] There is objection. I will defer voting under this item until voting time.
7. Reform UK Debate: Prostate cancer strategy cy
Symudwn ymlaen nawr at yr eitem nesaf, dadl Reform UK, strategaeth canser y prostad. Galwaf ar Benjamin Hodge Mckenna i wneud y cynnig.
Official English translation
We will now move to our next item, the Reform UK debate, prostate cancer strategy. I call on Benjamin Hodge Mckenna to move the motion.
7. Reform UK Debate: Prostate cancer strategy cy
Rwyf wedi dethol y gwelliant i'r cynnig. Galwaf ar Paul Davies i gynnig gwelliant 1 a gyflwynwyd yn ei enw ei hun.
Official English translation
I have selected the amendment to the motion. I call on Paul Davies to move amendment 1 tabled in his own name.
7. Reform UK Debate: Prostate cancer strategy cy
Galwaf ar y Gweinidog Cabinet dros Iechyd a Gofal, Mabon ap Gwynfor.
Official English translation
I call on the Cabinet Minister for Health and Care, Mabon ap Gwynfor.
7. Reform UK Debate: Prostate cancer strategy cy
Galwaf ar James Evans i ymateb i'r ddadl.
Official English translation
I call on James Evans to respond to the debate.
7. Reform UK Debate: Prostate cancer strategy cy
Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn y cynnig heb ei ddiwygio? A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? [Gwrthwynebiad.] Gohiriaf y bleidlais o dan yr eitem hon tan y cyfnod pleidleisio.
Official English translation
The proposal is to agree the motion without amendment. Does any Member object? [Objection.] I will therefore will defer voting under this item until voting time.
8. Welsh Labour Debate: The M4 around Newport cy
Yr eitem nesaf yw dadl Llafur Cymru, yr M4 o amgylch Casnewydd. Galwaf ar Jayne Bryant i wneud y cynnig.
Official English translation
The next item is the Welsh Labour debate, the M4 around Newport. I call on Jayne Bryant to move the motion.
8. Welsh Labour Debate: The M4 around Newport cy
Rwyf wedi dethol y gwelliant i'r cynnig. Galwaf ar y Dirprwy Weinidog dros Drafnidiaeth i gynnig yn ffurfiol welliant 1 a gyflwynwyd yn enw Heledd Fychan.
Official English translation
I have selected the amendments to the motion. I call on the Deputy Minister for Transport to move formally amendment 1, tabled in the name of Heledd Fychan.
8. Welsh Labour Debate: The M4 around Newport cy
Diolch yn fawr iawn. Lyn Ackerman.
Official English translation
Thank you very much. Lyn Ackerman.
8. Welsh Labour Debate: The M4 around Newport en
Could you conclude now, please, Natasha?
8. Welsh Labour Debate: The M4 around Newport en
Ken Skates.
8. Welsh Labour Debate: The M4 around Newport en
Ken Skates.
8. Welsh Labour Debate: The M4 around Newport en
[Inaudible.]—going, but I said loud enough, please, to conclude the remarks. Ken Skates.
8. Welsh Labour Debate: The M4 around Newport en
Could I forewarn Members that there are many names down in this debate? I don't think I'll be able to call everyone, but let's do our best. Paul Rock.
8. Welsh Labour Debate: The M4 around Newport en
Diolch, Mike. I'm going to call one last person for a short contribution. Art Wright.
8. Welsh Labour Debate: The M4 around Newport cy
Galwaf ar y Dirprwy Weinidog dros Drafnidiaeth, Mark Hooper.
Official English translation
I call on the Deputy Minister for Transport, Mark Hooper.
8. Welsh Labour Debate: The M4 around Newport en
Could you conclude now, please?
8. Welsh Labour Debate: The M4 around Newport cy
Galwaf ar Jayne Bryant i ymateb i'r ddadl.
Official English translation
I call on Jayne Bryant to reply to the debate.
8. Welsh Labour Debate: The M4 around Newport cy
Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn y cynnig heb ei ddiwygio? A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? [Gwrthwynebiad.] Oes. Gohiriaf y bleidlais o dan yr eitem hon tan y cyfnod pleidleisio.
Official English translation
The proposal is to agree the motion without amendment. Does any Member object? [Objection.] There are objections. I will therefore defer voting under this item until voting time.
8. Welsh Labour Debate: The M4 around Newport en
Unless there are five Members who wish for the bell to be rung, we will proceed straight to voting.
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Yn gyntaf, dadl ddeddfwriaethol Aelodau o dan Reol Sefydlog 11.21(iv), Bil y GIG yn gyntaf. Galwaf am bleidlais ar y cynnig a gyflwynwyd yn enw Gwyn Williams. Agorwch y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. Dyma ganlyniad y bleidlais: o blaid 64, yn ymatal 24, yn erbyn 2. Mae'r cynnig wedi ei dderbyn.
Official English translation
We will first vote on the Members' legislative debate under Standing Order 11.21(iv), an NHS first Bill. I call for a vote on the motion tabled in the name of Gwyn Williams. Open the vote. Close the vote. The result of the vote is as follows: in favour 64, 24 abstentions, 2 against. Therefore, the motion is agreed.
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Symudwn nawr at bleidleisio ar ddadl Reform UK, strategaeth canser y prostad. Galwaf am bleidlais ar y cynnig a gyflwynwyd yn enw Llŷr Powell. Os gwrthodir y cynnig, byddwn yn pleidleisio ar y gwelliant a gyflwynwyd i'r cynnig. Agorwch y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. Dyma ganlyniad y bleidlais: o blaid 90, neb yn ymatal, neb yn erbyn. Mae'r cynnig wedi ei dderbyn.
Official English translation
We will now move to the Reform UK debate, a prostate cancer strategy. I call for a vote on the motion tabled in the name of Llŷr Powell. If the proposal is not agreed, we will vote on the amendment tabled to the motion. Open the vote. Close the vote. The result of the vote is as follows: in favour 90, no abstentions, none against. The motion is therefore agreed.
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Nesaf, pleidleisiwn ar ddadl Llafur Cymru, yr M4 o amgylch Casnewydd. Galwaf am bleidlais ar y cynnig a gyflwynwyd yn enw Lynne Neagle. Os gwrthodir y cynnig, byddwn yn pleidleisio ar y gwelliant a gyflwynwyd i'r cynnig. Agorwch y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. Dyma ganlyniad y bleidlais: o blaid 46, neb yn ymatal, yn erbyn 44. Mae'r cynnig wedi ei dderbyn.
Official English translation
We'll now vote on the Welsh Labour debate, the M4 around Newport. I call for a vote on the motion tabled in the name of Lynne Neagle. If the proposal is not agreed, we will vote on the amendment tabled to the motion. Open the Vote. Close the vote. The result of the vote is as follows: in favour 46, no abstentions, 44 against. The motion is therefore agreed.
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If Members are leaving, if they could do so quickly and quietly, please.
10. Short Debate: Full-face coverings are against British values cy
Yr eitem nesaf yw'r ddadl fer. Jason O'Connell.
Official English translation
The next item is the short debate. Jason O'Connell.
10. Short Debate: Full-face coverings are against British values en
[Inaudible.]—different from the list that we have here. Could you give me the list again, please?
10. Short Debate: Full-face coverings are against British values en
Carrie Harper.
10. Short Debate: Full-face coverings are against British values en
David Mills.
10. Short Debate: Full-face coverings are against British values cy
Galwaf ar y Dirprwy Brif Weinidog a Gweinidog Cabinet dros Gyfiawnder Cymdeithasol a Chydraddoldeb i ymateb i'r ddadl—Sioned Williams.
Official English translation
I call on the Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Minister for Social Justice and Equality to reply to the debate—Sioned Williams.
10. Short Debate: Full-face coverings are against British values en
Could I ask the Minister to pause for a moment, please? There's a point of order being raised.
10. Short Debate: Full-face coverings are against British values en
I am always happy to review the Record of Proceedings and return to the matter if—if—I consider a ruling is necessary. But the Minister can respond.
10. Short Debate: Full-face coverings are against British values cy
Daw hynny â thrafodion heddiw i ben. Diolch yn fawr iawn.
Official English translation
That brings today's proceedings to a close. Thank you.
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Open this sitting on the stage
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Prynhawn da, bawb.
Official English translation
Good afternoon, everybody.
1. Questions to the First Minister en
Good afternoon, everybody.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Rydyn ni'n dechrau nawr gyda chwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog. Cwestiwn 1, Lyn Ackerman.
Official English translation
We will begin this afternoon with questions to the First Minister. Question 1, Lyn Ackerman.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Galwaf yn awr ar arweinwyr y pleidiau i holi'r Prif Weinidog. Yn gyntaf, arweinydd Reform UK, Helen Jenner.
Official English translation
I now call on the party leaders to question the First Minister. First, the leader of Reform UK, Helen Jenner.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Arweinydd Llafur Cymru, Ken Skates.
Official English translation
The leader of Welsh Labour, Ken Skates.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Arweinydd y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig, Darren Millar.
Official English translation
The leader of the Welsh Conservatives, Darren Millar.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Yn olaf, Brif Weinidog, cwestiwn 11, Gareth Thomas.
Official English translation
Finally, First Minister, question 11, Gareth Thomas.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Diolch, Brif Weinidog.
Official English translation
Thank you, First Minister.
2. Questions to the Counsel General cy
Cwestiynau nawr i'r Cwnsler Cyffredinol. Cwestiwn 1, Catherine Cullen.
Official English translation
Questions now to the Counsel General. Question 1, Catherine Cullen.
2. Questions to the Counsel General cy
Tynnwyd cwestiwn 2 [OQ64747] yn ôl. Cwestiwn 3, Jane Dodds.
Official English translation
Question 2 [OQ64747] has been withdrawn. Question 3, Jane Dodds.
2. Questions to the Counsel General cy
Galwaf yn awr ar lefarwyr y pleidiau i holi'r Cwnsler Cyffredinol. Llefarydd Reform UK, Adrian Mason.
Official English translation
I now call the party spokespeople to question the Counsel General. Reform UK spokesperson, Adrian Mason.
2. Questions to the Counsel General cy
Llefarydd Llafur Cymru, Mike Hedges.
Official English translation
The Welsh Labour spokesperson, Mike Hedges.
2. Questions to the Counsel General cy
Llefarydd y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig, Natasha Asghar.
Official English translation
The Welsh Conservatives' spokesperson, Natasha Asghar.
2. Questions to the Counsel General cy
[Anghlywadwy.]—ateb y cwestiwn.
Official English translation
[Inaudible.]—answer the question.
2. Questions to the Counsel General cy
Yn olaf, cwestiwn 11. John Clark.
Official English translation
Finally, question 11. John Clark.
2. Questions to the Counsel General cy
Diolch, Gwnsler Cyffredinol.
Official English translation
Thank you, Counsel General.
3. Business Statement and Announcement cy
Symudwn yn nawr at y datganiad a chyhoeddiad busnes. Galwaf ar y Trefnydd, Heledd Fychan.
Official English translation
We'll now move to the business statement and announcement. I call on the Trefnydd, Heledd Fychan.
3. Business Statement and Announcement cy
Yn olaf ar yr eitem yma, Steven Rodaway.
Official English translation
Finally on this item, Steven Rodaway.
3. Business Statement and Announcement cy
Diolch, Drefnydd.
Official English translation
Thanks, Trefnydd.
4. Statement by the First Minister: 60th Anniversary of the Aberfan Disaster cy
Symudwn nawr at yr eitem nesaf, datganiad gan y Prif Weinidog: nodi 60 mlynedd ers trychineb Aberfan. Galwaf ar y Prif Weinidog, Rhun ap Iorwerth.
Official English translation
We'll now move to our next item, a statement by the First Minister noting the sixtieth anniversary of the Aberfan disaster. And I call on the First Minister, Rhun ap Iorwerth.
4. Statement by the First Minister: 60th Anniversary of the Aberfan Disaster en
The First Minister to respond to the opening contributions.
4. Statement by the First Minister: 60th Anniversary of the Aberfan Disaster cy
Diolch, Brif Weinidog. Diolch, bawb.
Official English translation
Thank you, First Minister. Thank you, everyone.
5. Statement by the Cabinet Minister for Finance: Taxation (Wales) Bill cy
Symudwn nawr at yr eitem nesaf, datganiad y Gweinidog Cabinet dros Gyllid, Bil trethiant. Galwaf ar y Gweinidog Cabinet dros Gyllid, Elin Jones.
Official English translation
We now move to the next item, a statement by the Cabinet Minister for Finance, the Taxation (Wales) Bill. I call on the Cabinet Minister for Finance, Elin Jones.
5. Statement by the Cabinet Minister for Finance: Taxation (Wales) Bill cy
Symudwn yn awr at gyfraniadau un funud. Yn gyntaf, Peredur Owen Griffiths.
Official English translation
We now move to one-minute contributions. First of all, Peredur Owen Griffiths.
5. Statement by the Cabinet Minister for Finance: Taxation (Wales) Bill cy
Ac yn olaf, Iain McIntosh.
Official English translation
And finally, Iain McIntosh.
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Not at all.
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Symudwn at gyfraniadau un funud nawr. Yn gyntaf, John Davies.
Official English translation
We'll now move to one-minute contributions. First, John Davies.
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Could you ask a question, please?
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Ac yn olaf, Sarah Edwards.
Official English translation
And finally, Sarah Edwards.
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Diolch, Weinidog Cabinet.
Official English translation
Thank you, Cabinet Secretary.
9. Legislative Consent Motion: The Cyber Security and Resilience (Network Information Systems) Bill cy
Symudwn at yr eitem nesaf, cynnig cydsyniad deddfwriaethol y Bil Seiberddiogelwch a Seiberwydnwch (Systemau Rhwydwaith a Gwybodaeth). Galwaf ar y Gweinidog Cabinet dros Fenter, Cysylltedd ac Ynni i wneud y cynnig—Adam Price.
Official English translation
We'll move now to our next item, the legislative consent motion on the Cyber Security and Resilience (Network Information Systems) Bill. I call on the Cabinet Minister for Enterprise, Connectivity and Energy to move the motion—Adam Price.
9. Legislative Consent Motion: The Cyber Security and Resilience (Network Information Systems) Bill cy
Diolch. Galwaf ar Gadeirydd y Pwyllgor Deddfwriaeth, Cristiana Emsley.
Official English translation
Thank you. I call on the chair of the Legislation Committee, Cristiana Emsley.
9. Legislative Consent Motion: The Cyber Security and Resilience (Network Information Systems) Bill cy
Diolch yn fawr. Jason O'Connell.
Official English translation
Thank you. Jason O'Connell.
9. Legislative Consent Motion: The Cyber Security and Resilience (Network Information Systems) Bill cy
Diolch yn fawr. Galwaf nawr ar y Gweinidog Cabinet i ymateb i'r ddadl.
Official English translation
Thank you. I now call on the Cabinet Minister to reply to the debate.
9. Legislative Consent Motion: The Cyber Security and Resilience (Network Information Systems) Bill cy
Felly, y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn y cynnig? A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? Nac oes. Felly, derbynnir y cynnig yn unol â Rheol Sefydlog 12.36.
Official English translation
The proposal is to agree the motion. Does any Member object? No. Therefore, the motion is agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.
9. Legislative Consent Motion: The Cyber Security and Resilience (Network Information Systems) Bill cy
Diolch yn fawr. Daw hynny â thrafodion heddiw i ben.
Official English translation
Thank you very much. That brings today's proceedings to a close.
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Diolch yn fawr iawn, bawb.
Official English translation
Thank you very much, everyone.
5. Welsh Labour Debate: Palliative and end-of-life care cy
Dadl Llafur Cymru yn awr, gofal lliniarol ar ddiwedd oes. Galwaf ar Ken Skates i wneud y cynnig.
Official English translation
The Welsh Labour debate now on palliative and end-of-life care. I call on Ken Skates to move the motion.
5. Welsh Labour Debate: Palliative and end-of-life care en
You need to conclude now, please.
5. Welsh Labour Debate: Palliative and end-of-life care en
Diolch yn fawr iawn. We have another couple of speakers. This debate has got a lot of speakers down for it. I may run slightly over, if you will allow me, but if I could ask the next couple of speakers just to be mindful that we will be running over. Rebeca Phillips.
5. Welsh Labour Debate: Palliative and end-of-life care cy
Galwaf ar y Gweinidog Cabinet dros Iechyd a Gofal, Mabon ap Gwynfor.
Official English translation
I call on Cabinet Minister for Health and Care, Mabon ap Gwynfor.
5. Welsh Labour Debate: Palliative and end-of-life care cy
Galwaf ar Ken Skates i ymateb i'r ddadl.
Official English translation
I call on Ken Skates to reply to the debate.
5. Welsh Labour Debate: Palliative and end-of-life care cy
Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn y cynnig heb ei ddiwygio? A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? Nac oes. Felly, derbynnir y cynnig yn unol â Rheol Sefydlog 12.36. Diolch yn fawr.
Official English translation
The proposal is to agree the motion without amendment. Does any Member object? There are no objections. The motion is therefore agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36. Thank you.
6. Reform UK Debate: Local referendums on council tax rises cy
Yr eitem nesaf yw dadl Reform UK ar refferenda lleol ar gyfer codiadau'r dreth gyngor. Galwaf ar Cai Parry-Jones i wneud y cynnig.
Official English translation
The next item is the Reform UK debate on local referendums on council tax rises. I call on Cai Parry-Jones to move the motion.
6. Reform UK Debate: Local referendums on council tax rises cy
Rwyf wedi dethol y gwelliant i'r cynnig. Galwaf ar y Gweinidog Cabinet dros Gyllid i gynnig yn ffurfiol welliant 1 yn enw Heledd Fychan.
Official English translation
I have selected the amendment to the motion. I call on the Cabinet Minister for Finance to move formally amendment 1, tabled in the name of Heledd Fychan.
6. Reform UK Debate: Local referendums on council tax rises cy
Diolch yn fawr iawn. Galwaf nawr ar Sarah Cooper-Lesadd.
Official English translation
Thank you. I now call on Sarah Cooper-Lesadd.
6. Reform UK Debate: Local referendums on council tax rises en
Please, Mike, conclude, if you can.
6. Reform UK Debate: Local referendums on council tax rises en
Janet—[Interruption.] Please. We're trying to listen to the contributions from the floor. Janet Finch-Saunders.
6. Reform UK Debate: Local referendums on council tax rises en
It's not a debate. Sorry, the intervention has been taken. Continue.
6. Reform UK Debate: Local referendums on council tax rises cy
Galwaf ar y Gweinidog Cabinet dros Gyllid, Elin Jones.
Official English translation
I call on the Cabinet Minister for Finance, Elin Jones.
6. Reform UK Debate: Local referendums on council tax rises cy
Galwaf ar Francesca O'Brien i ymateb i'r ddadl.
Official English translation
I call on Francesca O'Brien to reply to the debate.
6. Reform UK Debate: Local referendums on council tax rises cy
Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn y cynnig heb ei ddiwygio? A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? [Gwrthwynebiad.] Oes. Gohiriaf y bleidlais o dan yr eitem hon tan y cyfnod pleidleisio.
Official English translation
The proposal is to agree the motion without amendment. Does any Member object? [Objection.] Yes, there are objections. I will therefore defer voting on this item until voting time.
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Rydyn ni'n cyrraedd eitem 7, y cyfnod pleidleisio. Oni bai bod pump Aelod yn dymuno imi ganu'r gloch, symudaf yn syth i'r cyfnod pleidleisio. Iawn. Galwaf am bleidlais ar y cynnig a gyflwynwyd yn enw Llŷr Powell. Os gwrthodir y cynnig, byddwn yn pleidleisio ar y gwelliant a gyflwynwyd i'r cynnig. Agorwch y bleidlais. Caewch y bleidlais. Dyma ganlyniad y bleidlais: o blaid 35, neb yn ymatal, yn erbyn 51. Mae'r cynnig wedi ei wrthod.
Official English translation
That brings us to item 7, voting time. Unless five Members wish for the bell to be rung, I will proceed directly to voting time. Okay. I call for a vote on the motion tabled in the name of Llŷr Powell. If the proposal is not agreed, we will vote on the amendment tabled to the motion. Open the vote. Close the vote. The result of the vote is as follows: in favour 35, no abstentions, 51 against. The motion is therefore not agreed.
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Galwaf am bleidlais ar welliant 1 nawr, a gyflwynwyd yn enw Heledd Fychan. Agorwch y bleidlais. Caewch y bleidlais. Dyma ganlyniad y bleidlais: o blaid 51, neb yn ymatal, yn erbyn 35. Mae gwelliant 1 wedi ei dderbyn.
Official English translation
I now call for a vote on amendment 1, tabled in the name of Heledd Fychan. Open the vote. Close the vote. The result of the vote is as follows: in favour 51, no abstentions, 35 against. Amendment 1 is therefore agreed.
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Galwaf nawr am bleidlais ar y cynnig wedi ei ddiwygio.
Official English translation
I now call for a vote on the motion as amended.
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Agorwch y bleidlais. Caewch y bleidlais. Dyma ganlyniad y bleidlais: o blaid 51, neb yn ymatal, yn erbyn 35. Mae'r cynnig wedi ei ddiwygio wedi ei dderbyn. Diolch yn fawr.
Official English translation
Open the vote. Close the vote. The result of the vote is as follows: in favour 51, no abstentions, 35 against. The motion as amended is agreed. Thank you very much.
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Could I ask Members who are leaving the Chamber to do so quickly and silently, please? Quickly and silently, please.
8. Short Debate: Green across the aisle: Making environmental stewardship a common cause cy
Symudwn nawr at eitem 8, y ddadl fer. Galwaf ar David Mills i siarad am y pwnc a ddewiswyd ganddo.
Official English translation
We'll move now to item 8, the short debate. I call on David Mills to speak to the topic that he has chosen.
8. Short Debate: Green across the aisle: Making environmental stewardship a common cause en
Yes.
8. Short Debate: Green across the aisle: Making environmental stewardship a common cause en
Minister, a challenge.
8. Short Debate: Green across the aisle: Making environmental stewardship a common cause cy
Galwaf ar y Gweinidog Cabinet dros Wydnwch Gwledig a Chynaliadwyedd i ymateb i'r ddadl—Llyr Gruffydd.
Official English translation
I call on the Cabinet Minister for Rural Resilience and Sustainability to reply to the debate—Llyr Gruffydd.
8. Short Debate: Green across the aisle: Making environmental stewardship a common cause cy
Diolch i'r Gweinidog Cabinet, a diolch i'r Aelodau hefyd. Daw hynny â thrafodion heddiw i ben.
Official English translation
I thank the Cabinet Minister and I thank Members too. That brings today's proceedings to a close.
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1. Questions to the First Minister en
Prynhawn da, bawb—good afternoon, everybody.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Symudwn nawr yn syth at eitem 1, cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog. Cwestiwn 1, Alun Cox.
Official English translation
We will move immediately now to item 1, questions to the First Minister. Question 1, Alun Cox.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Galwaf yn awr ar arweinwyr y pleidiau i holi'r Prif Weinidog. Yn gyntaf, arweinydd Reform UK, Helen Jenner.
Official English translation
I now call the party leaders to question the First Minister. First of all, the leader of Reform UK, Helen Jenner.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Arweinydd Llafur Cymru nawr—Ken Skates.
Official English translation
Leader of Welsh Labour now—Ken Skates.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Arweinydd y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig, Darren Millar.
Official English translation
Leader of the Welsh Conservatives, Darren Millar.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Cwestiwn, Darren.
Official English translation
A question, please, Darren.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Cwestiwn, plis, Peter.
Official English translation
Question, please, Peter.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Yn olaf, Brif Weinidog, cwestiwn 10, Anthony Slaughter.
Official English translation
Finally, First Minister, question 10, Anthony Slaughter.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Diolch, Brif Weinidog.
Official English translation
Thank you, First Minister.
2. Business Statement and Announcement cy
Eitem 2 nawr, y datganiad a chyhoeddiad busnes. Galwaf ar y Trefnydd, Heledd Fychan.
Official English translation
Item 2 now, the business statement and announcement. And I call on the Trefnydd, Heledd Fychan.
2. Business Statement and Announcement cy
Yn olaf, Drefnydd, Janet Finch-Saunders.
Official English translation
Finally, Trefnydd, Janet Finch-Saunders.
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Diolch, Weinidog Cabinet.
Official English translation
Thank you, Cabinet Minister.
5. Statement by the Cabinet Minister for Health and Care: Update on winter preparedness cy
Symudwn at eitem 5 nawr, datganiad gan y Gweinidog Cabinet dros Iechyd a Gofal, diweddariad ar barodrwydd ar gyfer y gaeaf. Galwaf ar y Gweinidog Cabinet dros Iechyd a Gofal, Mabon ap Gwynfor.
Official English translation
We'll move on now to item 5, a statement by the Cabinet Minister for Health and Care, an update on winter preparedness. I call on the Cabinet Minister for Health and Care, Mabon ap Gwynfor.
5. Statement by the Cabinet Minister for Health and Care: Update on winter preparedness cy
Symudwn nawr at gyfraniadau a chwestiynau un funud. Mae gennyf lawer o Aelodau sydd am siarad.
Official English translation
We'll move now to one-minute contributions and questions. I have a number of Members who wish to speak.
5. Statement by the Cabinet Minister for Health and Care: Update on winter preparedness en
Let's do our best. If we keep it really tight, let's see how many people we can get in.
5. Statement by the Cabinet Minister for Health and Care: Update on winter preparedness cy
Rydym ni'n dechrau gyda Elyn Stephens.
Official English translation
We start with Elyn Stephens.
5. Statement by the Cabinet Minister for Health and Care: Update on winter preparedness en
Question, please.
5. Statement by the Cabinet Minister for Health and Care: Update on winter preparedness cy
Yn olaf, James Evans.
Official English translation
Finally, James Evans.
5. Statement by the Cabinet Minister for Health and Care: Update on winter preparedness cy
Diolch, Weinidog Cabinet.
Official English translation
Thank you, Cabinet Minister.
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Datganiad nawr gan y Dirprwy Weinidog dros Drafnidiaeth, addasu i'r hinsawdd a gwydnwch yn rhwydwaith trafnidiaeth Cymru. Galwaf ar y Dirprwy Weinidog dros Drafnidiaeth, Mark Hooper.
Official English translation
A statement now from the Deputy Minister for Transport, climate adaptation and resilience in Wales's transport network. I call on the Deputy Minister for Transport, Mark Hooper.
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Janet Finch-Saunders.
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Ddirprwy Weinidog.
Official English translation
Deputy Minister.
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Cyfraniadau un munud nawr.
Official English translation
One-minute contributions now.
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I think I can get everybody in, if we keep the questions tight and the answers even tighter, Minister. With your help, we can do this. Letitia Gonzalez.
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Ddirprwy Weinidog.
Official English translation
Deputy Minister.
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Yn olaf, Anna Nicholl.
Official English translation
Finally, Anna Nicholl.
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1. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Health and Care cy
Diolch, Weinidog Cabinet.
Official English translation
Thank you, Cabinet Minister.
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Local Government, Housing and Planning cy
Symudwn nawr at eitem 2, cwestiynau i'r Gweinidog Cabinet dros Lywodraeth Lleol, Tai a Chynllunio. Cwestiwn 1, John Davies.
Official English translation
We'll move now to item 2, questions to the Cabinet Minister for Local Government, Housing and Planning. Question 1, John Davies.
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Local Government, Housing and Planning en
Jason O'Connell.
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Local Government, Housing and Planning en
Okay, we'll move along, then.
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Local Government, Housing and Planning cy
Galwaf nawr ar lafarwyr y pleidiau i holi'r Gweinidog Cabinet. Yn gyntaf, llefarydd Reform UK, Francesca O'Brien.
Official English translation
I now call on the party spokespeople to question the Cabinet Minister. First, Reform UK spokesperson, Francesca O'Brien.
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Local Government, Housing and Planning cy
Llefarydd Llafur Cymru, Jayne Bryant.
Official English translation
Welsh Labour spokesperson, Jayne Bryant.
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Local Government, Housing and Planning cy
Llefarydd y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig, Peter Fox.
Official English translation
The Welsh Conservatives' spokesperson, Peter Fox.
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Local Government, Housing and Planning en
Thank you. We'll move ahead now, but, before we do, can I just point out we're over two thirds of the way through the allocated time for this and yet we're only now moving to a spokesperson's question? So, if the Minister could help with short answers on this.
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Local Government, Housing and Planning cy
Cwestiwn 3, Marc Jones.
Official English translation
Question 3, Marc Jones.
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Local Government, Housing and Planning cy
Gweinidog Cabinet.
Official English translation
Cabinet Minister.
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Local Government, Housing and Planning cy
Diolch, Weinidog Cabinet.
Official English translation
Thank you, Cabinet Minister.
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Symudwn yn awr at eitem 3, cwestiynau amserol. Ni dderbyniwyd unrhyw gwestiynau amserol heddiw.
Official English translation
We'll move now to item 3, the topical questions. No topical questions have been accepted today.
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Eitem 4 nesaf, datganiadau 90 eiliad. Yn gyntaf, Elwyn Vaughan.
Official English translation
Item 4 is next, the 90-second statements. And the first of those is from Elwyn Vaughan.
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Diolch, bawb.
Official English translation
Thank you, all.
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We move now to the motions to elect Members to committees. In accordance with Standing Orders 12.24 and 12.40, unless there are any objections, I propose that the motions to elect Members to committees are grouped for debate and for voting. Does any Member object? I see there are no objections.
Motions to elect Members to committees en
I call then on a member of the Business Committee to move the motions formally.
Motions to elect Members to committees en
Thank you, Llŷr. The proposal is to agree the motions. Does any Member object? The motions are therefore agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.
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Symudwn at eitem 5 nawr, cynnig i ddirprwyo awdurdod ar gyfer gwneud y trefniadau i recriwtio comisiynydd safonau newydd i'r Pwyllgor Safonau Ymddygiad. Galwaf ar Elyn Stephens i wneud y cynnig yn ffurfiol ar ran y Pwyllgor Safonau Ymddygiad.
Official English translation
We will now move to item 5, the motion to delegate authority to make the arrangements for recruiting a new commissioner for standards to the Standards of Conduct Committee. I call on Elyn Stephens to formally move the motion on behalf of the Standards of Conduct Committee.
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Diolch yn fawr. Y cwestiwn: a ddylid derbyn y cynnig? A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? Nac oes. Felly, derbynnir y cynnig yn unol â Rheol Sefydlog 12.36.
Official English translation
Thank you very much. The proposal is to agree the motion. Does any Member object? There are no objections and therefore the motion is agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.
6. Member Debate under Standing Order 11.21(iv): Family Drug and Alcohol Courts cy
Symudwn nawr at eitem 6, dadl Aelodau o dan Reol Sefydlog 11.21(iv): llysoedd teulu cyffuriau ac alcohol. Galwaf ar Tom Montgomery i wneud y cynnig.
Official English translation
That brings us to item 6, Member debate under Standing Order 11.21(iv): family drug and alcohol courts. I call on Tom Montgomery to move the motion.
7. Reform UK Debate: Regional rugby en
Sorry, the Member—[Interruption.] Yes.
7. Reform UK Debate: Regional rugby en
If we pause just for a moment. The Member is entitled to take interventions if the Member wants, and he has taken some interventions. He's also entitled to continue with his contribution. Llŷr.
7. Reform UK Debate: Regional rugby cy
Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn y cynnig heb ei ddiwygio? A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? [Gwrthwynebiad.] Oes, mae gwrthwynebiad. Gohiriaf y bleidlais o dan yr eitem hon tan y cyfnod pleidleisio.
Official English translation
The proposal is to agree the motion without amendment. Does any Member object? [Objection.] There are objections. I will therefore defer voting under this item until voting time.
8. Reform UK Debate: Access to HMOs and social housing for foreign nationals cy
Symudwn nawr at eitem 8, dadl Reform UK: mynediad at dai amlfeddiannaeth a thai cymdeithasol i wladolion tramor. Galwaf ar Francesca O'Brien i wneud y cynnig.
Official English translation
We will now move to item 8, the Reform UK debate: access to houses in multiple occupation and social housing for foreign nationals. I call on Francesca O'Brien to move the motion.
8. Reform UK Debate: Access to HMOs and social housing for foreign nationals cy
Rwyf wedi dethol y gwelliannau i'r cynnig. Os derbynnir gwelliant 1, caiff gwelliant 2 ei ddad-ddethol. Galwaf ar y Gweinidog Cabinet dros Lywodraeth Leol, Tai a Chynllunio i gynnig yn ffurfiol welliant 1, a gyflwynwyd yn enwau Heledd Fychan a Lynne Neagle.
Official English translation
I have selected the amendments to the motion. If amendment 1 is agreed, amendment 2 will be deselected. I call on the Cabinet Minister for Local Government, Housing and Planning to move formally amendment 1, tabled in the names of Heledd Fychan and Lynne Neagle.
8. Reform UK Debate: Access to HMOs and social housing for foreign nationals cy
Diolch yn fawr iawn. Galwaf nawr ar Peter Fox i gynnig gwelliant 2, a gyflwynwyd yn enw Paul Davies.
Official English translation
Thank you. I call now on Peter Fox to move amendment 2, tabled in the name of Paul Davies.
8. Reform UK Debate: Access to HMOs and social housing for foreign nationals en
Diolch. We have many speakers on this debate. If every Member speaks for the full five minutes, we won't be able to call everybody. I'm just letting you know now, but it's in your hands. We could get to everybody if you speak slightly shorter. John Clark.
8. Reform UK Debate: Access to HMOs and social housing for foreign nationals en
The point is made.
8. Reform UK Debate: Access to HMOs and social housing for foreign nationals en
Unfortunately, I will not be able to call all Members in this debate within the time allocated for it. Before I call on the Cabinet Minister to respond, I understand that we may have a point of order.
8. Reform UK Debate: Access to HMOs and social housing for foreign nationals en
Before the Member chooses whether to respond, first of all, thanks for flagging the point of order. You rightly identify this as a factual correction that you were putting forward. As such, this is not a matter for me. But I will give the Member the opportunity to clarify the remarks if she wishes to do so.
8. Reform UK Debate: Access to HMOs and social housing for foreign nationals en
Diolch yn fawr iawn. Thank you.
8. Reform UK Debate: Access to HMOs and social housing for foreign nationals cy
Galwaf nawr ar y Gweinidog Cabinet dros Lywodraeth Leol, Tai a Chynllunio, Siân Gwenllian.
Official English translation
I now call on the Cabinet Minister for Local Government, Housing and Planning, Siân Gwenllian.
8. Reform UK Debate: Access to HMOs and social housing for foreign nationals cy
Galwaf yn awr ar Tom Montgomery i ymateb i'r ddadl.
Official English translation
I now call on Tom Montgomery to reply to the debate.
8. Reform UK Debate: Access to HMOs and social housing for foreign nationals cy
Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn y cynnig heb ei ddiwygio? A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? [Gwrthwynebiad.] Oes. Gohiriaf y bleidlais o dan yr eitem hon tan y cyfnod pleidleisio. Diolch.
Official English translation
The proposal is to agree the motion without amendment. Does any Member object? [Objection.] There are objections. I will therefore defer voting under this item until voting time. Thank you.
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1. Questions to the First Minister en
Prynhawn da. Good afternoon, everybody.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Symudwn yn syth ymlaen at eitem 1, cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog. Cwestiwn 1, Andrew Griffin.
Official English translation
We will move immediately to item 1, questions to the First Minister. The first question is from Andrew Griffin.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Cwestiwn, plis, Jane.
Official English translation
A question, please, Jane.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Galwaf yn awr ar arweinwyr y pleidiau i holi'r Prif Weinidog. Yn gyntaf, arweinydd Reform UK, Helen Jenner.
Official English translation
I now call on the party leaders to question the First Minister. First, the leader of Reform UK, Helen Jenner.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Arweinydd Llafur Cymru, Ken Skates.
Official English translation
Leader of Welsh Labour, Ken Skates.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Arweinydd y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig, Darren Millar.
Official English translation
Leader of the Welsh Conservatives, Darren Millar.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Diolch, Brif Weinidog.
Official English translation
Thank you, First Minister.
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Government Effectiveness and the Constitution cy
Symudwn nawr at gwestiynau i'r Gweinidog Cabinet dros Effeithiolrwydd Llywodraeth a'r Cyfansoddiad. Cwestiwn 1, Donna Cushing.
Official English translation
We'll move now to questions to the Cabinet Minister for Government Effectiveness and the Constitution. The first question is from Donna Cushing.
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Government Effectiveness and the Constitution cy
Galwaf yn awr ar lefarwyr y pleidiau i holi'r Gweinidog Cabinet. Yn gyntaf, Llefarydd Reform UK, Iain McIntosh.
Official English translation
I now call on the party spokespeople to question the Cabinet Minister. First, the Reform UK spokesperson, Iain McIntosh.
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Government Effectiveness and the Constitution cy
Llefarydd Llafur Cymru, Huw Thomas.
Official English translation
The Welsh Labour spokesperson, Huw Thomas.
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Government Effectiveness and the Constitution cy
Llefarydd y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig, Sam Rowlands.
Official English translation
The Welsh Conservatives' spokesperson, Sam Rowlands.
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Government Effectiveness and the Constitution cy
Cwestiwn, plis. [Anghlywadwy.]
Official English translation
A question, please. [Inaudible.]
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Government Effectiveness and the Constitution en
Claire Johnson-Wood.
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Government Effectiveness and the Constitution cy
Diolch yn fawr iawn. Mae cwestiynau 5 a 9 wedi'u grwpio. Cwestiwn 5, Andrew R.T. Davies.
Official English translation
Thank you very much. Questions 5 and 9 are grouped. Question 5, Andrew R.T. Davies.
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Government Effectiveness and the Constitution cy
Diolch. Cyn symud ymlaen i'r cwestiwn nesaf—
Official English translation
Thank you. Before moving on to the next question—
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Government Effectiveness and the Constitution en
—can I just remind Members of the conventions, protocols, guidelines and otherwise in this Chamber of not accusing or coming close to accusing other Members of lying or misleading? There are points of debate, but we have ways of debating this within the Chamber. It's not aimed at anybody in particular. In the generality, please, abide by that.
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Government Effectiveness and the Constitution cy
Cwestiwn 6. Elfed Williams.
Official English translation
Question 6. Elfed Williams.
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Government Effectiveness and the Constitution cy
Gweinidog Cabinet.
Official English translation
Cabinet Minister.
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Government Effectiveness and the Constitution cy
Mae cwestiwn 9 wedi ei grwpio gyda cwestiwn 5. Cwestiwn 10 [OQ64637] tynnwyd yn ôl. Felly, cwestiwn 11, Steven Rodaway.
Official English translation
Question 9 was grouped with question 5. Question 10 [OQ64637] is withdrawn. So, question 11, Steven Rodaway.
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Diolch, Ddirprwy Weinidog.
Official English translation
Thank you, Deputy Minister.
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Symudwn nawr at eitem 6: dadl diwygio cyllidol. Galwaf ar y Gweinidog Cabinet dros Gyllid i wneud y cynnig a gyflwynwyd yn enwau Heledd Fychan a Lynne Neagle—Elin Jones.
Official English translation
We will move now to item 6: debate on fiscal reform. I call on the Cabinet Minister for Finance to move the motion tabled in the names of Heledd Fychan and Lynne Neagle—Elin Jones.
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If you can conclude now, please—can you conclude?
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[Inaudible.]—please.
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I'd ask you to conclude here now, if you could.
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Sam Rowlands.
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Galwaf yn awr ar y Gweinidog Cabinet i ymateb i'r ddadl.
Official English translation
I call on the Cabinet Minister now to reply to the debate.
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Ac yn awr y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn y cynnig? A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? [Gwrthwynebiad.] Oes. Gohiriaf y bleidlais o dan yr eitem hon tan y cyfnod pleidleisio.
Official English translation
The proposal is to agree the motion. Does any Member object? [Objection.] There is objection. I will therefore defer voting under this item until voting time.
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Rydym ni wedi cyrraedd y cyfnod pleidleisio. Oni bai bod pum Aelod yn dymuno i mi ganu'r gloch, symudaf yn syth i'r cyfnod pleidleisio.
Official English translation
And that brings us to voting time, and, unless five Members wish for the bell to be rung, I will proceed directly to voting time.
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Galwaf am bleidlais ar y cynnig a gyflwynwyd yn enwau Heledd Fychan a Lynne Neagle. Agorwch y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. Dyma ganlyniad y bleidlais: o blaid 59, neb yn ymatal, yn erbyn 31. Mae'r cynnig wedi ei dderbyn. Diolch yn fawr iawn.
Official English translation
I call for a vote on the motion tabled in the names of Heledd Fychan and Lynne Neagle. Open the vote. Close the vote. The result of the vote is as follows: in favour 59, no abstentions, and 31 against. The motion is therefore agreed. Thank you.
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A daw hynny â thrafodion heddiw i ben.
Official English translation
And that brings today's proceedings to a close.
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Yr ail gwestiwn amserol heddiw gan Sera Evans.
Official English translation
The second topical question today is from Sera Evans.
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Yn olaf, Janet Finch-Saunders.
Official English translation
Finally, Janet Finch-Saunders.
5. Member Debate under Standing Order 11.21(iv): Contaminated land cy
Diolch yn fawr. Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn y cynnig? A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? Nac oes, does dim gwrthwynebiad. Felly, derbynnir y cynnig yn unol â Rheol Sefydlog 12.36. Diolch yn fawr.
Official English translation
Thank you very much. The proposal is to agree the motion. Does any Member object? No, there is no objection. The motion is therefore agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36. Thank you very much.
6. Reform UK Debate: Default 20 mph speed limit cy
Symudwn at eitem 6, dadl Reform UK ar y terfyn cyflymder diofyn o 20 mya. Galwaf ar Jason O'Connell i wneud y cynnig.
Official English translation
We move on now to item 6, the Reform UK debate on the default 20 mph speed limit. I call on Jason O'Connell to move the motion.
6. Reform UK Debate: Default 20 mph speed limit cy
Sarah Cooper-Lesadd. O, mae'n ddrwg gen i. Sori. Arhoswch am funud. Rwyf wedi dethol y gwelliant i'r cynnig. Galwaf ar y Dirprwy Weinidog dros Drafnidiaeth i gynnig yn ffurfiol welliant 1 yn enw Heledd Fychan. Weinidog.
Official English translation
Sarah Cooper-Lesadd. I do apologise. Just wait a moment. I have selected the amendment to the motion, and I call on the Deputy Minister for Transport to move formally amendment 1, tabled in the name of Heledd Fychan. Minister.
6. Reform UK Debate: Default 20 mph speed limit cy
Diolch yn fawr iawn. Ac yn awr, Sarah Cooper-Lesadd.
Official English translation
Thank you very much. And now, Sarah Cooper-Lesadd.
6. Reform UK Debate: Default 20 mph speed limit en
[Inaudible.]—playing word bingo here now. Can I just remind you that there was a ruling in the previous Senedd—a very clear ruling—on the use of the word 'blanket' in terms of this debate? I'm very cognisant that all Members so far have used the terms of the debate as set, which is 'default', indeed, so if we can keep to—
6. Reform UK Debate: Default 20 mph speed limit en
Well, Janet, can I just make clear to you that the standards commissioner and others have ruled on this and that 'blanket' is not appropriate?
6. Reform UK Debate: Default 20 mph speed limit en
Diolch yn fawr iawn, Gwyn.
6. Reform UK Debate: Default 20 mph speed limit en
Indeed.
6. Reform UK Debate: Default 20 mph speed limit en
Before calling the next speaker, this debate is rolling along very nicely, but simply to say that I don't expect Members to repeat where there has been a clear rule in the previous Senedd in terms of terminology around this. Members are being, by and large, very good in sticking to the terminology of this debate, but please don't try my patience. Paul Rock.
6. Reform UK Debate: Default 20 mph speed limit en
Paul, if you could—
6. Reform UK Debate: Default 20 mph speed limit en
Diolch yn fawr iawn. We still have several speakers to get to. I do not think we will get to them all in a 60-minute debate. This is probably the final speaker here, before we go to the Minister and the concluding remarks. Carmelo Colasanto.
6. Reform UK Debate: Default 20 mph speed limit en
Carmelo, could you conclude, please?
6. Reform UK Debate: Default 20 mph speed limit en
Carmelo, thank you.
6. Reform UK Debate: Default 20 mph speed limit cy
Galwaf ar y Dirprwy Weinidog dros Drafnidiaeth, Mark Hooper.
Official English translation
I call on the Deputy Minister for Transport, Mark Hooper.
6. Reform UK Debate: Default 20 mph speed limit cy
Galwaf ar Llŷr Powell i ymateb i'r ddadl.
Official English translation
I call on Llŷr Powell to reply to the debate.
6. Reform UK Debate: Default 20 mph speed limit en
Janet, I'm not clear what the point of order is here in this instance.
6. Reform UK Debate: Default 20 mph speed limit en
Janet, I'm not clear that that is a point of order. The Minister is sitting where the Minister sits in his position, and the person leading the response is responding as he sees fit. If you can continue, please, Llŷr.
6. Reform UK Debate: Default 20 mph speed limit en
Llŷr, it's an opportune moment here just to remind Members—you were very kind and generous in taking that intervention—that we do expect Members to be present for the whole of the debate when they make an intervention. But, Llŷr, you were very generous.
6. Reform UK Debate: Default 20 mph speed limit cy
Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn y cynnig heb ei ddiwygio? A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? [Gwrthwynebiad.] Gwrthwynebu. Gohiriaf y bleidlais o dan yr eitem hon tan y cyfnod pleidleisio.
Official English translation
The proposal is to agree the motion without amendment. Does any Member object? [Objection.] There is objection. I will therefore defer voting under this item until voting time.
7. Welsh Conservatives Debate: The defence sector cy
Symudwn ymlaen nawr at eitem 7, dadl y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig, y sector amddiffyn. Galwaf ar Darren Millar i wneud y cynnig.
Official English translation
We'll move now to item 7, the Welsh Conservatives debate on the defence sector. I call on Darren Millar to move the motion.
7. Welsh Conservatives Debate: The defence sector cy
Rwyf wedi dethol y gwelliant i'r cynnig. Galwaf ar y Gweinidog Cabinet dros Fenter, Cysylltedd ac Ynni i gynnig yn ffurfiol welliant 1 yn enw Heledd Fychan.
Official English translation
I have selected the amendment to the motion. I call on the Cabinet Minister for Enterprise, Connectivity and Energy to move formally amendment 1, tabled in the name of Heledd Fychan.
7. Welsh Conservatives Debate: The defence sector en
Diolch yn fawr. Sarah Rees.
7. Welsh Conservatives Debate: The defence sector en
Steven, could you conclude now, please?
7. Welsh Conservatives Debate: The defence sector en
Would you conclude now, Janet, please?
7. Welsh Conservatives Debate: The defence sector cy
Galwaf nawr ar y Gweinidog Cabinet dros Fenter, Cysylltedd ac Ynni, Adam Price.
Official English translation
I now call on the Cabinet Minister for Enterprise, Connectivity and Energy, Adam Price.
7. Welsh Conservatives Debate: The defence sector cy
Galwaf yn awr ar Sam Rowlands i ymateb i'r ddadl.
Official English translation
I call now on Sam Rowlands to reply to the debate.
7. Welsh Conservatives Debate: The defence sector cy
Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn y cynnig heb ei ddiwygio? A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? [Gwrthwynebiad.] Oes. Gohiriaf y bleidlais o dan yr eitem hon tan y cyfnod pleidleisio.
Official English translation
The proposal is to agree the motion without amendment. Does any Member object? [Objection.] Yes, there's objection, so I will defer voting under this item until voting time.
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Rŷn ni'n cyrraedd eitem 8, y cyfnod pleidleisio. Oni bai bod pum Aelod yn dymuno i mi ganu'r gloch, symudaf yn syth i'r cyfnod pleidleisio. Galwaf yn gyntaf am bleidlais ar y cynnig a gyflwynwyd yn Llŷr Powell, dadl Reform UK, terfyn cyflymder diofyn 20 mya. Os gwrthodir y cynnig, byddwn yn pleidleisio ar y gwelliant a gyflwynwyd i'r cynnig. Agorwch y bleidlais. Caewch y bleidlais. Dyma ganlyniad y bleidlais: o blaid 37, neb yn ymatal, yn erbyn 51. Mae'r cynnig wedi ei wrthod.
Official English translation
That brings us to item 8, voting time. Unless five Members wish for the bell to be rung, I will proceed directly to voting time. I call first for a vote on the motion tabled in the name of Llŷr Powell on the Reform UK debate on the default 20 mph speed limit. If the motion is not agreed, we will vote on the amendment tabled to the motion. Open the vote. Close the vote. The result of the vote is: in favour 37, no abstentions, 51 against. The motion is not agreed.
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Felly, galwaf am bleidlais ar welliant 1, a gyflwynwyd yn enw Heledd Fychan. Agorwch y bleidlais. Caewch y bleidlais. Dyma ganlyniad y bleidlais: o blaid 52, neb yn ymatal, yn erbyn 36. Mae gwelliant 1 wedi ei dderbyn.
Official English translation
I therefore call for a vote on amendment 1, tabled in the name of Heledd Fychan. Open the vote. Close the vote. The result of the vote is: in favour 52, no abstentions, 36 against. Amendment 1 is agreed.
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Galwaf nawr am bleidlais ar y cynnig wedi ei ddiwygio.
Official English translation
I now call for a vote on the motion as amended.
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Agorwch y bleidlais. Caewch y bleidlais. Dyma ganlyniad y bleidlais: o blaid 52, neb yn ymatal, yn erbyn 36. Mae'r cynnig wedi ei ddiwygio wedi ei dderbyn.
Official English translation
Open the vote. Close the vote. The result of the vote is: in favour 52, no abstentions, 36 against. The motion as amended is agreed.
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Nesaf, galwaf am bleidlais ar gynnig dadl y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig ar y sector amddiffyn, y cynnig a gyflwynwyd yn enw Paul Davies. Os gwrthodir y cynnig, byddwn yn pleidleisio ar y gwelliant a gyflwynwyd i'r cynnig. Agorwch y bleidlais. Caewch y bleidlais. Mae'r cynnig wedi ei dderbyn.
Official English translation
Now I call for a vote on the motion for the Welsh Conservatives' debate on the defence sector, the motion tabled in the name of Paul Davies. If the motion is not agreed, we will vote on the amendment tabled to the motion. Open the vote. Close the vote. The motion is agreed.
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Could I ask Members who are leaving the Chamber to move quietly, please, and swiftly? We are waiting to commence the short debate, so if Members could move swiftly out of the Chamber if they're not staying.
9. Short Debate: The importance of local services—Protecting the future of Withybush hospital cy
Symudwn nawr at eitem 9, dadl fer. Claire Archibald.
Official English translation
We move on now to the short debate. Claire Archibald.
9. Short Debate: The importance of local services—Protecting the future of Withybush hospital en
Now then, one-minute contributions or shorter. Paul Marr.
9. Short Debate: The importance of local services—Protecting the future of Withybush hospital cy
Yn olaf, Paul Davies.
Official English translation
Finally, Paul Davies.
9. Short Debate: The importance of local services—Protecting the future of Withybush hospital cy
Galwaf ar y Gweinidog Cabinet dros Iechyd a Gofal i ymateb i'r ddadl—Mabon ap Gwynfor.
Official English translation
I call on the Cabinet Minister for Health and Care to reply to the debate—Mabon ap Gwynfor.
9. Short Debate: The importance of local services—Protecting the future of Withybush hospital cy
Diolch, Weinidog Cabinet. Diolch, Aelodau, hefyd. Daw hynny â thrafodion heddiw i ben. Diolch yn fawr.
Official English translation
Thank you, Cabinet Minister, and thank you, Members. That brings today's proceedings to a close. Thank you very much.
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Prynhawn da, bawb.
Official English translation
Good afternoon, everybody.
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We'll get under way. Before we move ahead with today's agenda, I wish to communicate my ruling in response to the point of order raised by Heledd Fychan MS at the end of the meeting on 23 September 2026. I have had an opportunity to review the Record of Proceedings. My ruling is that the contribution made by Joe Martin MS to the short debate on 23 September breached Standing Order 13.9(v), as it constituted 'disorderly, discriminatory or offensive language or language which detracts from the dignity of the Senedd'. I want to make it clear that Members of the Senedd are entitled to hold and express strong and differing views. I will defend the rights of all Members to express their perspectives and to challenge that of other Members. It is the nature of parliamentary debate that Members will frequently disagree, and often in a robust manner. However, contributions must comply with the Standing Orders and the required standards of conduct in a parliamentary setting. And they must be grounded in respect for others at all times. This ruling concerns the language used and the manner in which the contribution was expressed, rather than the right to debate the subject matter. I have written to Joe Martin concerning my ruling, and to require that he ensures that the language used meets the requirements of order and respect in future. That is my ruling.
1. Nominations for a Committee Chair en
Can we now move to item 1, please? We have nominations for a committee Chair. I now invite nominations under Standing Order 17.2F for the Chair of the Legislation Committee, which has been allocated to the Reform group, agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.2A. Only a Member from the political group that has been allocated that committee may be nominated as Chair, and only a Member of the same political group may make the nomination. If a Member objects to a nomination, or there are two or more nominations, a secret ballot will be held. I invite nominations.
1. Nominations for a Committee Chair en
Thank you. Cai Parry-Jones is nominated. Do we have a seconder?
1. Nominations for a Committee Chair en
Thank you very much. We have a mover and a seconder. Are there any further nominations?
1. Nominations for a Committee Chair en
Cristiana Emsley is nominated. Do we have a seconder?
1. Nominations for a Committee Chair en
We have a seconder. Are there any further nominations? The election of the Chair for this committee will now duly take place by secret ballot. So, the secret ballot will be held in briefing room 13 in the Senedd, and electronically. Members will be e-mailed when the voting opens, and voting will close after two hours. The clerk will be responsible for supervising the voting and for counting the votes. Following the secret ballot, I will announce the result at the end of Plenary today.
2. Questions to the First Minister cy
Symudwn ymlaen nawr at eitem 2, cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog. Cwestiwn 1, Cristiana Emsley.
Official English translation
We will move now to item 2, questions to the First Minister. And the first question is from Cristiana Emsley.
2. Questions to the First Minister cy
Galwaf yn awr ar arweinwyr y pleidiau i holi'r Prif Weinidog. Yn gyntaf, arweinydd Reform UK, Helen Jenner.
Official English translation
I now call on the party leaders to question the First Minister. First of all, leader of Reform UK, Helen Jenner.
2. Questions to the First Minister cy
Arweinydd Llafur Cymru, Ken Skates.
Official English translation
Leader of Welsh Labour, Ken Skates.
2. Questions to the First Minister cy
Arweinydd y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig, Darren Millar.
Official English translation
Leader of the Welsh Conservatives, Darren Millar.
2. Questions to the First Minister cy
Cwestiwn 7 [OQ64608], tynnwyd yn ôl. Cwestiwn 8, Niamh Salkeld.
Official English translation
Question 7 [OQ64608] is withdrawn. Question 8, Niamh Salkeld.
2. Questions to the First Minister cy
Diolch, Brif Weinidog.
Official English translation
Thank you, First Minister.
3. Business Statement and Announcement cy
Symudwn nawr at eitem 3, datganiad a chyhoeddiad busnes. Galwaf ar y Trefnydd, Heledd Fychan.
Official English translation
We move on now to item 3, the business statement and announcement. I call on the Trefnydd, Heledd Fychan.
3. Business Statement and Announcement en
Shav—
3. Business Statement and Announcement en
Trefnydd.
3. Business Statement and Announcement cy
Yn olaf, Drefnydd, David Hughes.
Official English translation
Finally, Trefnydd, David Hughes.
3. Business Statement and Announcement en
Thank you.
3. Business Statement and Announcement cy
Diolch, Drefnydd.
Official English translation
Thank you, Trefnydd.
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Symudwn nawr at eitem 4: datganiad gan y Gweinidog Cabinet dros Iechyd a Gofal, adolygiad o'r fframwaith uwchgyfeirio ac ymyrryd. Galwaf ar y Gweinidog Cabinet, Mabon ap Gwynfor.
Official English translation
We'll move now to item 4: a statement by the Cabinet Minister for Health and Care, a review of the escalation and intervention framework. I call on the Cabinet Minister, Mabon ap Gwynfor.
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Yn olaf, Weinidog Cabinet, Anna Nicholl.
Official English translation
Finally, Cabinet Minister, Anna Nicholl.
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3. Questions to the Senedd Commission cy
Diolch am y cwestiwn.
Official English translation
Thank you for the question.
3. Questions to the Senedd Commission en
The Senedd Commission is committed to ensuring that we are inclusive to everyone who works on or visits the estate. We have facilities available for those who need to express milk following the birth of their child. The quiet rooms can be used for expressing milk, and fridges are available to store the milk. These can be found on the ground floor in Tŷ Hywel in B block, opposite the committee rooms, and one in the Senedd on the Neuadd level. In addition, people can access the first aid rooms, where privacy, seating or couch facilities are provided. All these facilities are lockable and can be marked as occupied. For Commission staff, managers and HR support return-to-work planning after maternity leave in a number of ways, including a new and expectant parent risk assessment, covering practical arrangements such as quiet rooms, hygiene facilities and secure refrigerated storage.
3. Questions to the Senedd Commission en
I really welcome that feedback from your own experience, and thank you for sharing that with us. I'm more than happy to take that back to officials and to facilitate, if necessary, discussion with my officials so that they can look at that. One of the opportunities as to what we can do now to improve that—and we do want to be, very much, that best practice in terms of the workplace—the other thing going forward is how we respond to the family friendly and inclusive parliament review, which had recommendations specifically with regard to family friendly support, breastfeeding and so on. So, if you're happy, I'll facilitate those discussions and we can look at how we can improve it now.
3. Questions to the Senedd Commission en
Diolch, Joe. Bay 32 is the Commission’s project to secure fit-for-purpose accommodation beyond the expiry of the Tŷ Hywel lease, which happens in 2032. A competitive procurement concluded that the best value option is a major refurbishment and renewal of Tŷ Hywel, with the potential for Commission ownership. Equitix is the preferred bidder and its proposal includes more than £50 million of landlord investment—landlord investment—in the building. This is planned to include increasing the amount of useable space in Tŷ Hywel by 25 per cent. The project is now in detailed design during a pre-development phase with capped costs to the Commission. Because the building must remain operational during major works, temporary accommodation will be needed for Members, staff and for services. So, the Commission will consider options for managing any relocation, before considering the full business case later this year. The works are currently expected to begin from early summer 2027 and last for up to three years.
3. Questions to the Senedd Commission en
I'm pleased to reiterate what I said in my opening remarks. First of all, the project is now in a capped cost pre-development phase. It's pegged. There's a clear understanding and expectation from all of the Commissioners who were involved in taking this forward, and an understanding from the potential project delivery partners as well. The other thing, reiterating but expanding a little bit on what I said earlier, is that we ran a competitive process. So, the Commission had a real choice of options of how to do this very important work for all of us and the constituents who come here to meet us as well. So, we tested the markets and secured what we believe is a very strong proposal for the long-term future of Tŷ Hywel. But one other thing I would say to you, Joe, and to other Members, is that we're keen that the project continues to be shaped by Member feedback, in providing those spaces that allow you and others to carry out your parliamentary roles. So, no decision has been taken yet to proceed, of course, with construction; the full business case is yet to be brought forward. We look forward to engaging with Members, and also with political groups as well, on the proposals as they're developed.
3. Questions to the Senedd Commission en
So, the cost of what is known as the 'decant strategy', and the different options on that that Commissioners are currently considering, is within the cost we've already described. So, we're not looking at an escalating cost; we're looking at managing it within the budgets we've already put for it. And, as I say, this pre-development phase, we've got capped costs for this. So, I hope that's an assurance to the Member. And, I have to say, there's very robust challenge from the Commissioners, all of them, in terms of keeping this within the cost envelope that we've anticipated. Ideally, going forward, we'll have a good building that is refurbished and fit for now and for years to come, that enhances the experience for Members and for people who visit here, and we can also do that in a very cost-effective way. Because at the moment—Members shouldn't be under any misapprehension as to what we are facing—if we don't proceed with this, the status quo option includes forking out for repairs to the existing building, into the millions of pounds. So, what we're trying to do is avoid that eventuality.
3. Questions to the Senedd Commission en
Diolch, Francesca. The Commission takes the welfare of Members and their staff very seriously, and we provide practical, accessible support across well-being, employment, health and safety, dignity and respect, safeguarding, and, of course, security. This includes confidential employee assistance and occupational health services, tailored HR guidance and training, and security advice and measures. The Hwb brings information and face-to-face support together in one place, with a weekly virtual drop-in for support staff, whatever their location. The Commission's phased learning framework treats personal resilience, well-being and maintaining a healthy work-life balance as continuing development needs rather than one-off induction topics. Training is repeated, reinforced and extended through the Senedd term, with provision adapted to Member and support staff learning needs and delivery preferences. And just finally, the Members' security team provides support to Members on a wide range of personal safety and security matters, including advice and guidance, the implementation of security measures at homes and offices, practical support and advice relating to social media security, and the reporting and management of security-related incidents.
3. Questions to the Senedd Commission en
Thank you for that. It's helpful with that supplementary. The Commissioners, of course, keep constantly under review the access and the privileged access to different parts of not just the Senedd building, but also here within Tŷ Hywel as well. There are different levels of pass holders, and there's an expectation as well that there's an accompaniment of visitors into certain areas by pass holders—just to remind colleagues as well. But we do keep this under review, and we do keep a refresh on it. So, I take on board the individual example that you're saying. Perhaps we can discuss it further in terms of what area that was, what precise location that was. But we do also want the building to be able to be accessible to people who want to ask us questions as elected representatives and for constituency members who visit us, and for legitimate lobbyists who come here from health organisations, et cetera, et cetera. So, point taken. I'm happy to discuss the individual location that you mentioned and, of course, Commissioners will always keep this under review.
3. Questions to the Senedd Commission en
Diolch yn fawr iawn. I would refer Members very strongly not just to the Hwb, but to the security team presence as well, for all the advice and assistance they can give. Of course, there is an interaction that we have, not just as individual Members, but through our security people, including the observation and monitoring. It's not monitoring in a NASA style, but keeping an eye on what's happening online. There is engagement as well with police across Wales. This is an issue that affects all Members, because it can be quite a hostile environment out there. But I would strongly say to Members and their staff that if they have individual instances, they should bring them to the attention of our security people, because they want to hear about it and we need to be notified of it.
3. Questions to the Senedd Commission en
Diolch, Jane. Responsibility for safeguarding arrangements within Members' offices rests with the individual Members, as Members of the Senedd are individually elected and they're not Commission employees. Members need to have their own safeguarding policy appropriate to their role as office holders and employers, as they are responsible for their activities. The statutory disclosure and barring framework is reserved to the UK level.
3. Questions to the Senedd Commission en
Thank you. There are a couple of points for consideration here. First of all, the statutory disclosure and barring framework is reserved to UK level, so broadening eligibility for things such as enhanced checks would require action by the UK Government. I'm aware that political parties operate, on a voluntary basis, their own approach to candidates, and it differs from party to party. We watch with interest the different proposals that are emerging currently at a UK level from some individual MPs. Some of them are looking at a statutory basis for changing this, and some at a non-statutory basis. The basic test, as you mentioned, in terms of DBS, as opposed to the enhanced test, has some limitations with it in terms of what it provides. My understanding is that DBS checks are legally designed as a tool for employers or for licensing bodies to assess the suitability of an applicant for a specific workplace role. MSs, of course, not unlike MPs, are not employees, but independent constitutional office holders chosen directly by voters. But it is an interesting area, and we're watching the discussions going on in Westminster at the moment. But the responsibility rests with UK statute.
3. Questions to the Senedd Commission en
Members and staff are able to access all major news outlets using the Senedd IT network on laptops and other Senedd Commission-issued devices. With regard to the internal broadcasting network, this matter is subject to ongoing discussion by Commissioners, and I’m sure Commissioners will gladly report back to their respective groups in due course. All major newspapers are delivered to the Senedd's library and can be accessed by Members and staff.
3. Questions to the Senedd Commission en
Catherine, you are right indeed, we have been here before. At the last Senedd Commission questions, there was quite a lengthy discussion on this. I can't really add much to my opening response. Perhaps it's worth highlighting for the record that press freedom is a principle that we all share. It remains central to the integrity and openness of the democratic institutions here in Wales. This principle, by the way, is reflected, as I mentioned in my opening remarks, in our policy on press passes to the estate as well. It is also reflected in the fact that all the major news outlets can be accessed on the Senedd IT network—on laptops and other Senedd Commission devices—and in the access to all major newspapers in the Senedd library. But as I said earlier, the matter is subject to ongoing discussions by Commissioners, and out of respect to them and those discussions, it's difficult for me to add to my earlier remarks.
3. Questions to the Senedd Commission en
Diolch, Gwyn. Ease of access to the existing routes from Tŷ Hywel to the Senedd building, and significant improvements to how the buildings connect for Members and other users, is actively being looked at in detail as part of the Bay 32 project. The Commission is not, however, currently considering any further alternative physical bridges, for example, to the Senedd building from Tŷ Hywel. There are two link bridges that provide access from Tŷ Hywel to the Senedd building—one via the first floor staff restaurant and one on the second floor. Access from the first floor link bridge is via lifts only. The second floor link bridge directly joins the Senedd building, with no lift required. Direct access is also available at ground floor level via the Senedd building courtyards.
3. Questions to the Senedd Commission en
Now we're put right on the spot, because if Sam is keeping an eye on this, my goodness. As I mentioned, the proposals we're looking at for developing and enhancing the facilities here include those routes from one part of the building to the other—from Tŷ Hywel to the Senedd. So, it's under consideration by the Commissioners in the plans going forward. It won't be immediate—I can't promise that. Meanwhile, we're all going to have to work hard to avoid that last-minute bottleneck where we're all jammed in with Sam, with very important services and goods being taken across at the same time that we're rushing down for the bell. Diolch.
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Diolch yn fawr iawn.
Official English translation
Thank you very much.
6. Welsh Labour Debate: Further education cy
Symudwn nawr at eitem 6, dadl Llafur Cymru ar addysg bellach. Galwaf ar Lynne Neagle i wneud y cynnig.
Official English translation
We'll move on now to item 6, the Welsh Labour debate on further education. I call on Lynne Neagle to move the motion.
6. Welsh Labour Debate: Further education cy
Diolch. Rwyf wedi dethol y gwelliannau i'r cynnig. Galwaf nawr ar y Dirprwy Weinidog dros Sgiliau ac Addysg Drydyddol i gynnig yn ffurfiol welliant 1 a gyflwynwyd yn enw Heledd Fychan.
Official English translation
Thank you. I have selected the amendments to the motion. I call now on the Deputy Minister for Skills and Tertiary Education to move formally amendment 1, tabled in the name of Heledd Fychan.
6. Welsh Labour Debate: Further education cy
Diolch yn fawr. Galwaf ar Sam Rowlands i gynnig gwelliant 2 a gyflwynwyd yn enw Paul Davies.
Official English translation
Thank you very much. I call on Sam Rowlands to move amendment 2, tabled in the name of Paul Davies.
6. Welsh Labour Debate: Further education cy
Diolch. Galwaf yn awr ar y Dirprwy Weinidog dros Sgiliau ac Addysg Drydyddol, Cefin Campbell.
Official English translation
Thank you. I call now on the Deputy Minister for Skills and Tertiary Education, Cefin Campbell.
6. Welsh Labour Debate: Further education cy
Galwaf ar Lynne Neagle i ymateb i'r ddadl.
Official English translation
I call on Lynne Neagle to reply to the debate.
6. Welsh Labour Debate: Further education cy
Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn y cynnig heb ei ddiwygio? A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? [Gwrthwynebiad.] Gohiriaf y bleidlais o dan yr eitem hon tan y cyfnod pleidleisio.
Official English translation
The proposal is to agree the motion without amendment. Does any Member object? [Objection.] I will therefore defer voting under this item until voting time.
7. Reform UK Debate: Wales and the United Kingdom cy
Symudwn at eitem 7, dadl Reform UK, Cymru a'r Deyrnas Unedig. Galwaf ar Adrian Mason i wneud y cynnig.
Official English translation
We'll move now to item 7, the Reform UK debate, Wales and the United Kingdom. I call on Adrian Mason to move the motion.
7. Reform UK Debate: Wales and the United Kingdom en
Just to reassure you, you haven't gone over; you've got 15 minutes in total, so don't worry.
7. Reform UK Debate: Wales and the United Kingdom cy
Galwaf nawr ar y Gweinidog Cabinet dros Effeithiolrwydd Llywodraeth a'r Cyfansoddiad i gynnig yn ffurfiol gwelliant 1 a gyflwynwyd yn enw Heledd Fychan.
Official English translation
I now call on the Cabinet Minister for Government Effectiveness and the Constitution to formally move amendment 1, tabled in the name of Heledd Fychan.
7. Reform UK Debate: Wales and the United Kingdom cy
Diolch yn fawr iawn. Galwaf ar Huw Thomas i gynnig gwelliant 2 a gyflwynwyd yn enw Lynne Neagle.
Official English translation
Thank you very much. I now call on Huw Thomas to move amendment 2, tabled in the name of Lynne Neagle.
7. Reform UK Debate: Wales and the United Kingdom en
Could you wind up now, Huw, please?
7. Reform UK Debate: Wales and the United Kingdom cy
Y siaradwr nesaf—Carrie Harper.
Official English translation
Our next speaker is Carrie Harper.
7. Reform UK Debate: Wales and the United Kingdom en
Colleagues, Members, we have a long list of speakers here. It's already been a lively debate, with interventions as well. It may be that we can't get them all in; it's in your hands. Elfed Williams.
7. Reform UK Debate: Wales and the United Kingdom en
Thank you, Mike. We have two speakers, and this might push us just over time. So, I'm going to ask the two speakers if they can keep within the limit and, if they can keep it shorter, that'd be even better. So, if we can go, first of all, to Iain McIntosh.
7. Reform UK Debate: Wales and the United Kingdom en
My thanks to the Member who has courteously withdrawn her name. It is noticed on the credit side of the ledger.
7. Reform UK Debate: Wales and the United Kingdom cy
Diolch yn fawr iawn. Symudwn yn syth i'r Gweinidog Cabinet nawr. Galwaf ar y Gweinidog Cabinet dros Effeithiolrwydd Llywodraeth a'r Cyfansoddiad, Dafydd Trystan Davies.
Official English translation
Thank you very much. We will therefore move immediately to the Cabinet Minister. I call on the Cabinet Minister for Government Effectiveness and the Constitution, Dafydd Trystan Davies.
7. Reform UK Debate: Wales and the United Kingdom cy
Galwaf ar James Evans i ymateb i'r ddadl.
Official English translation
I call on James Evans to reply to the debate.
7. Reform UK Debate: Wales and the United Kingdom cy
Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn y cynnig heb ei ddiwygio? A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? [Gwrthwynebiad.] Gwrthwynebu. Gohiriaf y bleidlais o dan yr eitem hon tan y cyfnod pleidleisio.
Official English translation
The proposal is to agree the motion without amendment. Does any Member object? [Objection.] There are objections. I will therefore defer voting under this item until voting time.
7. Reform UK Debate: Wales and the United Kingdom cy
Rydyn ni'n cyrraedd y cyfnod pleidleisio. Oni bai fod pum Aelod yn dymuno i mi ganu'r gloch, symudaf yn syth i'r cyfnod pleidleisio.
Official English translation
That brings us to voting time. Unless five Members wish for the bell to be rung, I will proceed directly to voting time.
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Yn gyntaf, pleidleisiwn ar eitem 6, dadl Llafur Cymru ar addysg bellach. Galwaf am bleidlais ar y cynnig a gyflwynwyd yn enw Lynne Neagle. Os gwrthodir y cynnig, byddwn ni'n pleidleisio ar y gwelliannau a gyflwynwyd i'r cynnig. Agorwch y bleidlais. Canlyniad y bleidlais: o blaid 46—. Ocê, sori. Caewch y bleidlais. Dyma ganlyniad y bleidlais. O blaid 46, un person yn ymatal ac yn erbyn 43. Mae'r cynnig wedi'i dderbyn.
Official English translation
The first vote this afternoon is on item 6, the Welsh Labour debate on further education. I call for a vote on the motion tabled in the name of Lynne Neagle. If the proposal is not agreed, we will vote on the amendments tabled to the motion. Open the vote. The result of the vote is as follows: in favour 46—. Okay, sorry. Close the vote. The result of the vote is as follows: in favour 46, one abstention and 43 against. The motion is therefore agreed.
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Awn yn syth ymlaen at y ddadl nesaf, at eitem 7, dadl Reform UK, Cymru a'r Deyrnas Unedig. Galwaf am bleidlais ar y cynnig a gyflwynwyd yn enw Llŷr Powell. Os gwrthodir y cynnig, byddwn ni'n pleidleisio ar y gwelliannau a gyflwynwyd i'r cynnig. Agorwch y bleidlais. Caewch y bleidlais. Dyma ganlyniad y bleidlais—. O. [Chwerthin.] O blaid 45, neb yn ymatal, yn erbyn 45. Fel sy'n ofynnol o dan Reol Sefydlog 6.20, rwy'n arfer fy mhleidlais fwrw i bleidleisio yn erbyn y cynnig. Dyma ganlyniad y bleidlais nawr: o blaid 45, neb yn ymatal, yn erbyn 46. Mae'r cynnig wedi'i wrthod.
Official English translation
We'll move on immediately now to item 7, the Reform UK debate, Wales and the United Kingdom. I call for a vote on the motion tabled in the name of Llŷr Powell. If the proposal is not agreed, we will vote on the amendments tabled to the motion. Open the vote. Close the vote. The result of the vote is as follows—. Oh. [Laughter.] In favour 45, no abstentions and 45 against. As required under Standing Order 6.20, I exercise my casting vote to vote against the motion. The final result is: in favour 45, no abstentions and 46 against. The motion is not agreed.
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Rŷn ni'n symud at welliant 1 nawr. Galwaf am bleidlais ar welliant 1 a gyflwynwyd yn enw Heledd Fychan. Agorwch y bleidlais. Caewch y bleidlais. Dyma ganlyniad y bleidlais: o blaid 53, neb yn ymatal, yn erbyn 37. Mae gwelliant 1 wedi'i dderbyn.
Official English translation
We will move now to amendment 1. I call for a vote on amendment 1, tabled in the name of Heledd Fychan. Open the vote. Close the vote. The result of the vote is as follows: in favour 53, no abstentions, 37 against. Amendment 1 is agreed.
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Nesaf fe awn ni at welliant 2. Galwaf am bleidlais ar welliant 2 a gyflwynwyd yn enw Lynne Neagle. Agorwch y bleidlais. Caewch y bleidlais. Dyma ganlyniad y bleidlais: o blaid wyth, neb yn ymatal, yn erbyn 82. Mae gwelliant 2 wedi'i wrthod.
Official English translation
We will move now to amendment 2. I call for a vote on amendment 2, tabled in the name of Lynne Neagle. Open the vote. Close the vote. The result of the vote is: in favour eight, no abstentions, 82 against. Amendment 2 is therefore not agreed.
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Galwaf yn awr am y bleidlais ar y cynnig wedi'i ddiwygio.
Official English translation
I now call for a vote on the motion as amended.
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Agorwch y bleidlais. Caewch y bleidlais. Dyma ganlyniad y bleidlais: o blaid 45, wyth yn ymatal, yn erbyn 37. Mae'r cynnig wedi'i ddiwygio wedi'i dderbyn. Diolch, bawb.
Official English translation
Open the vote. Close the vote. The result of the vote is as follows: in favour 45, eight abstentions and 37 against. Therefore, the motion as amended is agreed. Thank you, all.
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Could I ask Members who are leaving the Chamber to do so swiftly and quietly, please? Quietly, without discussion, please. Diolch yn fawr iawn.
9. Short Debate: The unacceptable pause in scheduled treatment for trans patients cy
Symudwn at eitem 9, y ddadl fer. Anthony Slaughter.
Official English translation
We'll now move to item 9, the short debate. Anthony Slaughter.
9. Short Debate: The unacceptable pause in scheduled treatment for trans patients en
Diolch yn fawr. Members are going to have to help each other. It's 15 minutes maximum for the contributions here in the opening remarks. Sarah Rees.
9. Short Debate: The unacceptable pause in scheduled treatment for trans patients en
We're over time, but I'm going to give very short contributions here to the final two speakers so that everybody is called. Cristiana Emsley.
9. Short Debate: The unacceptable pause in scheduled treatment for trans patients cy
Galwaf ar y Gweinidog Cabinet dros Iechyd a Gofal i ymateb i'r ddadl—Mabon ap Gwynfor.
Official English translation
I call on the Cabinet Minister for Health and Care to reply to the debate—Mabon ap Gwynfor.
9. Short Debate: The unacceptable pause in scheduled treatment for trans patients cy
Diolch, Weinidog Cabinet.
Official English translation
Thank you, Cabinet Minister.
9. Short Debate: The unacceptable pause in scheduled treatment for trans patients en
Thank you for raising that point of order and giving me notice that you were going to do so. I think there is merit within the point of order and I'm happy to review the Record of Proceedings. I will, indeed, return to the matter if I consider that a ruling is necessary. There are clear guidelines and Standing Orders in terms of language within the Chamber. So, I will happily take this away and review the Record of Proceedings. Thank you for raising it. Diolch yn fawr iawn.
9. Short Debate: The unacceptable pause in scheduled treatment for trans patients cy
Daw hynny â thrafodion heddiw i ben. Diolch, bawb.
Official English translation
That brings today's proceedings to a close. Thank you.
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1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Prynhawn da, bawb. Gadewch i ni ddechrau. Rydyn ni'n dechrau gyda chwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog. Cwestiwn 1, Andrew R.T. Davies.
Official English translation
Good afternoon, all. Let's make a start. We will begin with questions to the First Minister. The first question this afternoon is from Andrew R.T. Davies.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Galwaf yn awr ar arweinwyr y pleidiau i holi'r Prif Weinidog. Yn gyntaf, arweinydd Reform UK, Helen Jenner.
Official English translation
I now call on the party leaders to question the First Minister. First, the leader of Reform UK, Helen Jenner.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Arweinydd y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig, Darren Millar.
Official English translation
The leader of the Welsh Conservatives, Darren Millar.
1. Questions to the First Minister en
Diolch. Alun, you extended the question a little bit from what was on the order paper, just to be aware, because this isn't an Afan Ogwr Rhondda-specific question. So, can I bring in now Claire Johnson-Wood, to explain why?
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Nesaf—. Mae'n ddrwg gen i. Peter Fox.
Official English translation
Next—. I do apologise. Peter Fox.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Ac yn olaf, Brif Weinidog, cwestiwn 10, Cai Parry-Jones.
Official English translation
And finally, First Minister, question 10, Cai Parry-Jones.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Diolch yn fawr iawn, Brif Weinidog. Rydw i'n siarad nawr yn araf iawn—
Official English translation
Thank you very much, First Minister. I'm speaking very slowly now—
1. Questions to the First Minister en
—as we wait in high expectation for the Counsel General to appear on the benches. If Members will just bear with us for a moment, as soon as we are ready, we will commence.
2. Questions to the Counsel General cy
Symudwn nawr at eitem 2, cwestiynau i'r Cwnsler Cyffredinol. Cwestiwn 1, Jane Dodds.
Official English translation
We will move now to item 2, questions to the Counsel General. The first question is from Jane Dodds.
2. Questions to the Counsel General cy
Galwaf yn awr ar lefarwyr y pleidiau i holi'r Cwnsler Cyffredinol. Yn gyntaf, llefarydd Reform UK, Adrian Mason.
Official English translation
I now call the party spokespeople to question the Counsel General. First of all, Reform UK spokesperson, Adrian Mason.
2. Questions to the Counsel General cy
Llefarydd Llafur Cymru, Mike Hedges.
Official English translation
The Welsh Labour spokesperson, Mike Hedges.
2. Questions to the Counsel General cy
Llefarydd y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig, Paul Davies.
Official English translation
The Welsh Conservatives spokesperson, Paul Davies.
2. Questions to the Counsel General en
We're trying to listen—
2. Questions to the Counsel General en
Colleagues, we're trying to listen to the question. I think the Counsel General is trying to listen.
2. Questions to the Counsel General en
Right. Now, we're going to try and move ahead and get some more questions in further down the list, if we can, with everybody's help.
2. Questions to the Counsel General cy
Felly, cwestiwn 5, Mair Rowlands.
Official English translation
Therefore, question 5, Mair Rowlands.
2. Questions to the Counsel General cy
Yn olaf, cwestiwn 8—Kiera Marshall.
Official English translation
Finally, question 8—Kiera Marshall.
4. Statement by the First Minister: 'New Ambition for Wales: Programme for Government 2026-2030' cy
Diolch, Brif Weinidog.
Official English translation
Thank you, First Minister.
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Symudwn ymlaen nawr at eitem 5, datganiad gan y Gweinidog Cabinet dros Fenter, Cysylltedd ac Ynni. Galwaf ar y Gweinidog Cabinet dros Fenter, Cysylltedd ac Ynni, Adam Price.
Official English translation
We move on now to item 5, a statement by the Cabinet Minister for Enterprise, Connectivity and Energy. I call on the Cabinet Minister for Enterprise, Connectivity and Energy, Adam Price.
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Vikki Howells—. Mae'n ddrwg gen i.
Official English translation
Vikki Howells—. I'm sorry.
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I'm sorry. Shav Taj.
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Yn olaf, Art Wright.
Official English translation
Finally, Art Wright.
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Diolch yn fawr iawn.
Official English translation
Thank you very much.
5. Reform UK Debate: Grooming gangs en
We move now to item 5 on the agenda, Reform UK debate: grooming gangs. Before we begin the debate, I just want to remind all Members of the sub judice provisions in Standing Order 13.15. Members must not make any reference to an active case that is to be heard or is being heard before a criminal court or before a jury. This includes speculating on the guilt or the innocence of any group or any individual. Now, it is perfectly possible to discuss the wider issues raised by the motion before us today, but Members must avoid comment or speculation that could be prejudicial in any future criminal trials. In addition, Standing Order 13.16 requires that Members must not make criticisms of the conduct of judges or the courts in the discharge of their judicial office. Thank you for bearing with me while I remind you of those Standing Orders. I now call on Paul Marr to move the motion.
5. Reform UK Debate: Grooming gangs cy
Diolch. Rwyf wedi dethol y gwelliannau i'r cynnig. Galwaf nawr ar y Dirprwy Weinidog dros Ofal Cymdeithasol, Iechyd Meddwl ac Iechyd Menywod i gynnig yn ffurfiol welliant 1 a gyflwynwyd yn enw Heledd Fychan.
Official English translation
Thank you. I have selected the amendments to the motion. I now call on the Deputy Minister for Social Care, Mental Health and Women's Health to move formally amendment 1 tabled in the name of Heledd Fychan.
5. Reform UK Debate: Grooming gangs cy
Diolch. Galwaf nawr ar Darren Millar i gynnig gwelliant 2 a gyflwynwyd yn enw Paul Davies.
Official English translation
Thank you. I now call on Darren Millar to move amendment 2 tabled in the name of Paul Davies.
5. Reform UK Debate: Grooming gangs cy
Galwaf yn awr ar y Dirprwy Weinidog dros Ofal Cymdeithasol, Iechyd Meddwl ac Iechyd Menywod, Delyth Jewell.
Official English translation
I now call on the Deputy Minister for Social Care, Mental Health and Women's Health, Delyth Jewell.
5. Reform UK Debate: Grooming gangs cy
Diolch. Galwaf nawr ar Llŷr Powell i ymateb i'r ddadl.
Official English translation
Thank you. I now call on Llŷr Powell to reply to the debate.
5. Reform UK Debate: Grooming gangs cy
Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn y cynnig heb ei ddiwygio? A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? [Gwrthwynebiad.] Gwrthwynebu. Felly, gohiriaf y bleidlais o dan yr eitem hon tan y cyfnod pleidleisio.
Official English translation
The proposal is to agree the motion without amendment. Does any Member object? [Objection.] There is objection. I will therefore defer voting under this item until voting time.
6. Reform UK Debate: Cwm Taf Morgannwg University Health Board health visitor pay dispute cy
Symudwn ymlaen nawr at eitem 6, dadl Reform UK, anghydfod cyflogau ymwelwyr iechyd Bwrdd Iechyd Prifysgol Cwm Taf Morgannwg. Galwaf yn awr ar Benjamin Hodge Mckenna i wneud y cynnig. Benjamin.
Official English translation
We will now move to item 6, the Reform UK debate on the Cwm Taf Morgannwg University Health Board health visitor pay dispute. I now call on Benjamin Hodge Mckenna to move the motion. Benjamin.
6. Reform UK Debate: Cwm Taf Morgannwg University Health Board health visitor pay dispute cy
Galwaf yn awr ar y Gweinidog Cabinet dros Iechyd a Gofal i gynnig yn ffurfiol gwelliannau 1 a 2, a gyflwynwyd yn enw Heledd Fychan.
Official English translation
I now call on the Cabinet Minister for Health and Care to move formally amendments 1 and 2, tabled in the name of Heledd Fychan.
6. Reform UK Debate: Cwm Taf Morgannwg University Health Board health visitor pay dispute cy
Diolch yn fawr. Galwaf ar Andrew R.T. Davies i gynnig gwelliant 3, a gyflwynwyd yn enw Paul Davies.
Official English translation
Thank you. I now call on Andrew R.T. Davies to move amendment 3, tabled in the name of Paul Davies.
6. Reform UK Debate: Cwm Taf Morgannwg University Health Board health visitor pay dispute cy
Galwaf ar Vikki Howells i gynnig gwelliant 4, a gyflwynwyd yn enw Lynne Neagle.
Official English translation
I call on Vikki Howells to move amendment 4, tabled in the name of Lynne Neagle.
6. Reform UK Debate: Cwm Taf Morgannwg University Health Board health visitor pay dispute en
Vikki, I wonder if you could conclude.
6. Reform UK Debate: Cwm Taf Morgannwg University Health Board health visitor pay dispute cy
Galwaf nawr ar y Gweinidog Cabinet dros Iechyd a Gofal, Mabon ap Gwynfor.
Official English translation
I now call on the Cabinet Minister for Health and Care, Mabon ap Gwynfor.
6. Reform UK Debate: Cwm Taf Morgannwg University Health Board health visitor pay dispute cy
Galwaf yn awr ar James Evans i ymateb i'r ddadl.
Official English translation
I now call on James Evans to reply to the debate.
6. Reform UK Debate: Cwm Taf Morgannwg University Health Board health visitor pay dispute en
You've just put on record a direct accusation that the Minister has lied. Could I just ask you to reflect on that in terms of parliamentary language within this place?
6. Reform UK Debate: Cwm Taf Morgannwg University Health Board health visitor pay dispute cy
Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn y cynnig heb ei ddiwygio? A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? [Gwrthwynebiad.] Gohiriaf y bleidlais o dan yr eitem hon tan y cyfnod pleidleisio.
Official English translation
The proposal is to agree the motion without amendment. Does any Member object? [Objection.] I will therefore defer voting under this item until voting time.
6. Reform UK Debate: Cwm Taf Morgannwg University Health Board health visitor pay dispute cy
Oni bai bod pum Aelod yn dymuno i mi ganu'r gloch, symudaf yn syth i'r cyfnod pleidleisio. Mae yna bum Aelod.
Official English translation
Unless five Members wish for the bell to be rung, I will move directly to voting time. There are five Members.
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Yn gyntaf, galwaf am bleidlais ar y cynnig o dan eitem 5, y cynnig a gyflwynwyd yn enw Llŷr Powell. Os gwrthodir y cynnig, byddwn yn pleidleisio ar y gwelliannau a gyflwynwyd i'r cynnig. Agorwch y bleidlais. Caewch y bleidlais. O blaid 37, neb yn ymatal, 47 yn erbyn. Mae'r cynnig wedi'i wrthod.
Official English translation
I first call for a vote on the motion under item 5, the motion tabled in the name of Llŷr Powell. If the proposal is not agreed, we will vote on the amendments tabled to the motion. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 37, no abstentions, 47 against. Therefore, the motion is not agreed.
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Symudwn nawr i welliant 1. Galwaf am bleidlais ar welliant 1, a gyflwynwyd yn enw Heledd Fychan. Agorwch y bleidlais. Caewch y bleidlais. Dyma ganlyniad y bleidlais: o blaid 47, neb yn ymatal, 37 yn erbyn. Felly, mae gwelliant 1 wedi'i dderbyn.
Official English translation
We now move to amendment 1. I call for a vote on amendment 1, tabled in the name of Heledd Fychan. Open the vote. Close the vote. The result of the vote is as follows: in favour 47, no abstentions, 37 against. Therefore, amendment 1 is agreed.
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Galwaf yn awr am bleidlais ar welliant 2, a gyflwynwyd yn enw Paul Davies. Agorwch y bleidlais. Caewch y bleidlais. Dyma ganlyniad y bleidlais: o blaid 37, neb yn ymatal, 47 yn erbyn. Mae gwelliant 2 wedi'i wrthod.
Official English translation
I now call for a vote on amendment 2, tabled in the name of Paul Davies. Open the vote. Close the vote. The result of the vote is as follows: in favour 37, no abstentions, 47 against. Amendment 2 is therefore not agreed.
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Galwaf nawr am bleidlais ar y cynnig wedi'i ddiwygio.
Official English translation
I now call for a vote on the motion as amended.
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Agorwch y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. Dyma ganlyniad y bleidlais: o blaid 47, yn ymatal 29, yn erbyn wyth. Mae'r cynnig wedi'i ddiwygio wedi'i dderbyn.
Official English translation
Open the vote. Close the vote. The result of the vote is as follows: in favour 47, 29 abstentions, eight against. Therefore, the motion as amended is agreed.
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Pleidleisiwn yn awr ar eitem 6. Galwaf yn gyntaf am bleidlais ar y cynnig a gyflwynwyd yn enw Llŷr Powell. Os gwrthodir y cynnig, byddwn yn pleidleisio ar y gwelliannau a gyflwynwyd i'r cynnig. Agorwch y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. Dyma ganlyniad y bleidlais: o blaid 38, neb yn ymatal ac yn erbyn 46. Mae'r cynnig wedi'i wrthod.
Official English translation
We will now move to votes under item 6. I first call for a vote on the motion tabled in the name of Llŷr Powell. If the proposal is not agreed, we will vote on the amendments tabled to the motion. Open the vote. Close the vote. The results of the vote are as follows: in favour 38, no abstentions and 46 against. The motion is therefore not agreed.
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Rŷn ni'n mynd yn awr at welliant 1. Galwaf am bleidlais ar welliant 1 a gyflwynwyd yn enw Heledd Fychan. Agorwch y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. Dyma ganlyniad y bleidlais: o blaid 48, neb yn ymatal ac yn erbyn 36. Mae gwelliant 1 wedi'i dderbyn.
Official English translation
We move now to a vote on amendment 1. I call for a vote on amendment 1, tabled in the name of Heledd Fychan. Open the vote. Close the vote. The result of the vote is as follows: in favour 48, no abstentions and 36 against. Therefore, amendment 1 is agreed.
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Galwaf nawr am bleidlais ar welliant 2 a gyflwynwyd yn enw Heledd Fychan. Agorwch y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. Dyma ganlyniad y bleidlais: o blaid 42, neb yn ymatal, yn erbyn 42. Felly, fel sy'n ofynnol o dan Reol Sefydlog 6.20, rwy'n arfer fy mhleidlais fwrw i bleidleisio yn erbyn y gwelliant. Dyma'r canlyniad: o blaid 42, neb yn ymatal, yn erbyn 43. Mae gwelliant 2 wedi'i wrthod.
Official English translation
I therefore call for a vote on amendment 2, tabled in the name of Heledd Fychan. Open the vote. Close the vote. The results of the vote are as follows: in favour 42, no abstentions, 42 against. Therefore, as is required under Standing Order 6.20, I exercise my casting vote against the amendment. So, the result of the vote: in favour, there were 42, no abstentions, 43 against. Therefore, amendment 2 is not agreed.
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Galwaf yn awr am bleidlais ar welliant 3 a gyflwynwyd yn enw Paul Davies. Agorwch y bleidlais. Caewch y bleidlais. Dyma ganlyniad y bleidlais: o blaid 42, neb yn ymatal, yn erbyn 42. Felly, unwaith eto, fel sy'n ofynnol o dan Reol Sefydlog 6.20, rwy'n arfer fy mhleidlais fwrw i bleidleisio yn erbyn y gwelliant. A nawr, dyma'r canlyniad: o blaid 42, neb yn ymatal, yn erbyn 43. Mae gwelliant 3 wedi'i wrthod.
Official English translation
I now call for a vote on amendment 3, tabled in the name of Paul Davies. Open the vote. Close the vote. The result of the vote is as follows: in favour 42, no abstentions, 42 against. Therefore, once again, as required under Standing Order 6.20, I exercise my casting vote to vote against the amendment. And the result of the vote is as follows: in favour 42, no abstentions, 43 against. Amendment 3 is not agreed.
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Gwelliant 4 nawr. Galwaf am bleidlais ar welliant 4 a gyflwynwyd yn enw Lynne Neagle. Agorwch y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. Dyma ganlyniad y bleidlais: o blaid 84, neb yn ymatal, neb yn erbyn hefyd. Mae gwelliant 4 wedi'i dderbyn.
Official English translation
We will move now to amendment 4. I call for a vote on amendment 4, tabled in the name of Lynne Neagle. Open the vote. Close the vote. The result of the vote is as follows: in favour 84, no abstentions, none against. Therefore, amendment 4 is agreed.
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Galwaf nawr am bleidlais ar y cynnig wedi'i ddiwygio.
Official English translation
I now call for a vote on the motion as amended.
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Agorwch y bleidlais. Caewch y bleidlais. O blaid 42, neb yn ymatal, yn erbyn 42. Felly, unwaith eto, fel sy'n ofynnol o dan Reol Sefydlog 6.20, rwy'n arfer fy mhleidlais fwrw i bleidleisio yn erbyn y cynnig wedi'i ddiwygio. Felly, dyma ganlyniad y bleidlais: o blaid 42, neb yn ymatal, yn erbyn 43. Mae'r cynnig wedi'i ddiwygio wedi'i wrthod. Diolch yn fawr iawn.
Official English translation
Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 42, no abstentions, 42 against. Therefore, once again, as required under Standing Order 6.20, I exercise my casting vote to vote against the motion as amended. So, the result of the vote is as follows: in favour 42, no abstentions, 43 against. The motion as amended is therefore not agreed. Thank you very much.
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Now, could I ask Members who are departing the Chamber to do so swiftly but quietly, please, without conversation, so that we can move on to the final debate of the day quickly? We'll just wait for Members to depart, those who are departing.
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Symudwn yn awr at ddadl fer heddiw, eitem 8, a galwaf ar Cai Parry-Jones i siarad am y pwnc a ddewiswyd ganddo. Cai.
Official English translation
We will now move to this afternoon's short debate, under item 8, and I call on Cai Parry-Jones to speak to the topic that he has chosen. Cai.
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Diolch. Galwaf yn awr ar y Dirprwy Weinidog dros Drafnidiaeth i ymateb i'r ddadl. Mark Hooper.
Official English translation
Thank you. I now call on the Deputy Minister for Transport to reply to the debate. Mark Hooper.
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Diolch, Ddirprwy Weinidog. Diolch, bawb. Daw hynny â thrafodion heddiw i ben. Diolch.
Official English translation
Thank you, Deputy Minister. Thank you, all. That brings today's proceedings to a close. Thank you.
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1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Croeso nôl i chi i gyd.
Official English translation
Welcome back to you all.
1. Questions to the First Minister en
Welcome back, everybody.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Gadewch i ni symud ymlaen at y busnes, ac eitem 1, cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog. Ac yn gyntaf, cwestiwn 1, Gwyn Williams.
Official English translation
Let's move on to this afternoon's business, and item 1, questions to the First Minister. The first question is from Gwyn Williams.
1. Questions to the First Minister en
Jane Dodds.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Galwaf yn awr ar arweinwyr y pleidiau i holi'r Brif Weinidog. Yn gyntaf, ar ran Reform UK, Helen Jenner.
Official English translation
I now call on the party leaders to question the First Minister. First, on behalf of Reform UK, Helen Jenner.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Arweinydd Llafur Cymru, Ken Skates.
Official English translation
Leader of Welsh Labour, Ken Skates.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Arweinydd y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig, Darren Millar.
Official English translation
Leader of the Welsh Conservatives, Darren Millar.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Cwestiwn 3, Adrian Mason.
Official English translation
Question 3, Adrian Mason.
1. Questions to the First Minister en
Now, we're doing well, but at the risk of disappointing some Members, we're going to see how far we can get down the order paper and get to the questions that are here, so—.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Symudwn ymlaen nawr at gwestiwn 7, Elyn Stephens.
Official English translation
We move now to question 7, Elyn Stephens.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Ac yn olaf, Brif Weinidog, cwestiwn 12, Lis McLean.
Official English translation
And finally, First Minister, question 12, Lis McLean.
1. Questions to the First Minister en
Diolch, Brif Weinidog. We got through quite a few questions there. My apologies to those I wasn't able to call, but we got a lot of questions in there, so diolch yn fawr iawn.
2. Business Statement and Announcement cy
Symudwn ymlaen nawr at eitem 2, y datganiad a chyhoeddiad busnes. A galwaf ar y Trefnydd, Heledd Fychan.
Official English translation
We will now move on to item 2, the business statement and announcement. And I call on the Trefnydd, Heledd Fychan.
2. Business Statement and Announcement cy
Diolch yn fawr iawn. Llŷr Powell.
Official English translation
Thank you very much. Llŷr Powell.
2. Business Statement and Announcement en
Trefnydd, would you try again, if you could?
2. Business Statement and Announcement en
I think there's a problem with the—. Is there a problem, Janet? Can you hear?
2. Business Statement and Announcement en
You can hear now, Janet. It seems to be working now.
2. Business Statement and Announcement cy
Os yw'n bosibl, ie.
Official English translation
Yes, if possible.
2. Business Statement and Announcement cy
Diolch, Drefnydd. Ac yn olaf, Jason O'Connell.
Official English translation
Thank you, Trefnydd. And finally, Jason O'Connell.
2. Business Statement and Announcement cy
Diolch, Drefnydd.
Official English translation
Thank you, Trefnydd.
3. Statement by the First Minister: Weather, wildfires, drought and resilience cy
Symudwn yn awr at eitem 3, datganiad gan y Prif Weinidog: tywydd, tanau gwyllt, sychder a chadernid. Galwaf ar y Prif Weinidog, Rhun ap Iorwerth.
Official English translation
We'll now move to item 3, statement by the First Minister: weather, wildfires, drought and resilience. And I call on the First Minister, Rhun ap Iorwerth.
3. Statement by the First Minister: Weather, wildfires, drought and resilience en
This is a very important issue, but we've only got 20 minutes left, so we're going to move to shorter contributions and questions from Members. If they can help us along, we'll try and get through everybody if we can. First, Niamh Salkeld.
3. Statement by the First Minister: Weather, wildfires, drought and resilience cy
Ac yn olaf, Matthew Jones.
Official English translation
And finally, Matthew Jones.
3. Statement by the First Minister: Weather, wildfires, drought and resilience cy
Diolch, Brif Weinidog. Cyn symud ymlaen, hoffwn atgoffa'r Siambr fod gan Aelodau yr hawl i siarad yn Saesneg neu yn Gymraeg ar unrhyw adeg yn ystod ein trafodion.
Official English translation
Thank you, First Minister. Before we move on, I would like to remind the Chamber that Members have the right to speak in English or in Welsh at any time during our proceedings.
3. Statement by the First Minister: Weather, wildfires, drought and resilience en
Questions asked in English may be answered in Welsh, just as questions asked in Welsh may be answered in English.
3. Statement by the First Minister: Weather, wildfires, drought and resilience cy
Os bydd problem dechnegol gyda'r offer cyfieithu, byddwn wrth gwrs yn oedi'r trafodion tan fod y broblem yn cael ei datrys.
Official English translation
Where there is a technical problem with interpretation equipment, we will of course always pause proceedings until the problems are resolved.
3. Statement by the First Minister: Weather, wildfires, drought and resilience en
I hope that's a helpful clarification.
4. Statement by the Cabinet Minister for Finance: Rebalancing the non-domestic rates system cy
Rydym ni'n symud ymlaen at eitem 4. Eitem 4, datganiad gan y Gweinidog Cabinet dros Gyllid: ailgydbwyso'r system ardrethi annomestig.
Official English translation
We will now move to item 4. Item 4, a statement by the Cabinet Minister for Finance: rebalancing the non-domestic rates system.
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Diolch, Weinidog Cabinet.
Official English translation
Thank you, Cabinet Minister.
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Eitem 7 sydd nesaf, datganiad gan y Dirprwy Weinidog dros Ofal Cymdeithasol, Iechyd Meddwl ac Iechyd Menywod ar sicrhau bod menywod, babanod a theuluoedd yn ganolog i ddiogelwch: gweithredu Call for Concern mewn gwasanaethau mamolaeth a newyddenedigol. Galwaf nawr ar y Dirprwy Weinidog dros Ofal Cymdeithasol, Iechyd Meddwl ac Iechyd Menywod, Delyth Jewell.
Official English translation
Item 7 is next, a statement by the Deputy Minister for Social Care, Mental Health and Women's Health on putting women, babies and families at the heart of safety: the implementation of Call for Concern in maternity and neonatal services. I now call on the Deputy Minister for Social Care, Mental Health and Women's Health, Delyth Jewell.
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Yn olaf, Francesca O'Brien.
Official English translation
Finally, Francesca O'Brien.
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Diolch yn fawr iawn, Dirprwy Lywydd. Daw hynny â thrafodion heddiw i ben. Diolch, bawb.
Official English translation
Thank you very much, Deputy Minister. That brings today's proceedings to a close. Thank you, all.
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1. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Health and Care cy
Prynhawn da, bawb.
Official English translation
Good afternoon, everyone.
1. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Health and Care en
Good afternoon, everybody.
1. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Health and Care cy
Awn yn syth nawr i eitem 1, cwestiynau i'r Gweinidog Cabinet dros Iechyd a Gofal. Cwestiwn 1, Laura Anne Jones.
Official English translation
We will move immediately to item 1, questions to the Cabinet Minister for Health and Care, and the first question is from Laura Anne Jones.
1. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Health and Care cy
Cwestiwn, plis, Claire.
Official English translation
A question, please, Claire.
1. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Health and Care cy
Galwaf yn awr ar lefarwyr y pleidiau i holi'r Gweinidog Cabinet. Yn cyntaf, llefarydd Reform UK, James Evans.
Official English translation
I now call the party spokespeople to question the Cabinet Minister. First of all, the Reform UK spokesperson, James Evans.
1. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Health and Care cy
Llefarydd Llafur Cymru, Jayne Bryant.
Official English translation
Welsh Labour spokesperson, Jayne Bryant.
1. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Health and Care cy
Llefarydd y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig, Natasha Asghar.
Official English translation
Welsh Conservatives spokesperson, Natasha Asghar.
1. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Health and Care cy
Cwestiwn, Paul.
Official English translation
A question, Paul.
1. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Health and Care cy
Cwestiwn, plis.
Official English translation
A question, please.
1. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Health and Care cy
Ac yn olaf, cwestiwn 7, Louise Emery.
Official English translation
And finally, question 7, Louise Emery.
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Diolch, Weinidog.
Official English translation
Thank you, Minister.
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Symudwn nawr at eitem 4, datganiadau 90 eiliad. Yn gyntaf, Llŷr Powell.
Official English translation
We'll move now to item 4, the 90-second statements. The first is from Llŷr Powell.
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Ac yn olaf, Rebeca Phillips.
Official English translation
And finally, Rebeca Phillips.
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Diolch, bawb.
Official English translation
Thank you, all.
5. Motion to establish a committee cy
Symudwn nawr at eitem 5, cynnig i sefydlu pwyllgor y Llywydd. Galwaf ar aelod o'r Pwyllgor Busnes i wneud y cynnig yn ffurfiol. Paul Davies.
Official English translation
We now move to item 5, a motion to establish the Llywydd's committee. I call on a member of the Business Committee to move the motion formally. Paul Davies.
5. Motion to establish a committee cy
Diolch yn fawr iawn. Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn y cynnig? A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? Na. Felly, derbynnir y cynnig yn unol â Rheol Sefydlog 12.36. Diolch yn fawr.
Official English translation
Thank you very much. The proposal is to agree the motion. Does any Member object? No. Therefore, the motion is agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36. Thank you very much.
6. Member Debate under Standing Order 11.21(iv): Young people and employment cy
Eitem 6 nesaf, dadl Aelodau o dan Reol Sefydlog 11.21(iv), pobl ifanc a chyflogaeth. Galwaf ar Shav Taj i gyflwyno'r cynnig, a gyflwynwyd yn ei henw hi ac yn enwau Jane Dodds a Paul Rock.
Official English translation
Item 6 is next, a Member debate under Standing Order 11.21(iv), young people and employment. I call on Shav Taj to move the motion tabled in her name and in the names of Jane Dodds and Paul Rock.
6. Member Debate under Standing Order 11.21(iv): Young people and employment en
Jason.
6. Member Debate under Standing Order 11.21(iv): Young people and employment en
Please.
6. Member Debate under Standing Order 11.21(iv): Young people and employment cy
Diolch, Janet.
Official English translation
Thanks, Janet.
6. Member Debate under Standing Order 11.21(iv): Young people and employment cy
Diolch yn fawr iawn.
Official English translation
Thank you very much.
6. Member Debate under Standing Order 11.21(iv): Young people and employment en
Diolch. I'm going to try and squeeze in one final short contribution before we call the Minister. Sera Evans.
6. Member Debate under Standing Order 11.21(iv): Young people and employment cy
Diolch. Galwaf ar y Gweinidog Cabinet dros Fenter, Cysylltedd ac Ynni, Adam Price.
Official English translation
Thank you. I call on the Cabinet Minister for Enterprise, Connectivity and Energy, Adam Price.
6. Member Debate under Standing Order 11.21(iv): Young people and employment cy
Galwaf nawr ar Shav Taj i ymateb i'r ddadl.
Official English translation
I now call on Shav Taj to reply to the debate.
6. Member Debate under Standing Order 11.21(iv): Young people and employment en
Shav—
6. Member Debate under Standing Order 11.21(iv): Young people and employment cy
Diolch. Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn y cynnig? A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? [Gwrthwynebiad.] Gwrthwynebu. Gohiriaf y bleidlais o dan yr eitem hon tan y cyfnod pleidleisio.
Official English translation
Thank you. The proposal is to agree the motion. Does any Member object? [Objection.] There are objections. I will therefore defer voting under this item until voting time.
7. Reform UK Debate: Bovine TB cy
Yr eitem nesaf yw eitem 7, dadl Reform UK—TB buchol. Galwaf ar Laura Anne Jones i wneud y cynnig.
Official English translation
The next item is item 7, the Reform UK debate on bovine TB. And I call on Laura Anne Jones to move the motion.
7. Reform UK Debate: Bovine TB cy
Rwyf wedi dethol y gwelliant i'r cynnig. Galwaf ar Vikki Howells i gynnig gwelliant 1, a gyflwynwyd yn enw Lynne Neagle. Vikki Howells.
Official English translation
I have selected the amendment to the motion, and I call on Vikki Howells to move amendment 1, tabled in the name of Lynne Neagle. Vikki Howells.
7. Reform UK Debate: Bovine TB en
I'm going to do my best to get a couple more speakers in before we come to you, Minister, but I'm going to need the help of Members to do that. Stephen Senior.
7. Reform UK Debate: Bovine TB cy
Ac yn olaf—yn fyr iawn—Paul Rock.
Official English translation
And finally—very briefly—Paul Rock.
7. Reform UK Debate: Bovine TB cy
Galwaf nawr ar y Gweinidog Cabinet dros Wydnwch Gwledig a Chynaliadwyedd, Llyr Gruffydd.
Official English translation
I now call on the Cabinet Minister for Rural Resilience and Sustainability, Llyr Gruffydd.
7. Reform UK Debate: Bovine TB cy
Galwaf nawr ar James Evans i ymateb i'r ddadl.
Official English translation
I call on James Evans to reply to the debate.
7. Reform UK Debate: Bovine TB cy
Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn y cynnig heb ei ddiwygio? A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? [Gwrthwynebiad.] Object. Gohiriaf y bleidlais o dan yr eitem hon tan y cyfnod pleidleisio.
Official English translation
The proposal is to agree the motion without amendment. Does any Member object? [Objection.] Object. I will defer voting under this item until voting time.
8. Welsh Conservatives Debate: Deposit-return scheme cy
Eitem 8 nesaf, dadl y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig: cynllun dychwelyd ernes. Galwaf ar Janet Finch-Saunders i wneud y cynnig.
Official English translation
Item 8 next, the Welsh Conservatives debate: the deposit-return scheme. I call on Janet Finch-Saunders to move the motion.
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Prynhawn da, bawb.
Official English translation
Good afternoon, everybody.
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Good afternoon, everybody. We will make a start.
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Gadewch inni ddechrau. Yn gyntaf, hoffwn roi gwybod i'r Aelodau, yn unol â Rheol Sefydlog 26.87, fy mod wedi sefydlu a chyhoeddi amserlen ar gyfer balotau Biliau Aelod ar gyfer y seithfed Senedd. Cynhelir dau falot, y cyntaf ddydd Mercher 14 Hydref a'r ail ddydd Mercher 7 Gorffennaf 2027. Mae'r broses ar gyfer balotau Biliau Aelod yn newydd ar gyfer y seithfed Senedd. Am y tro cyntaf, bydd y rhain yn falotau enw yn unig. Bydd rhagor o fanylion am y balotau, ynghyd â gwybodaeth am yr hyfforddiant a fydd ar gael ar y broses o ran Biliau Aelod, yn cael eu cyhoeddi i'r holl Aelodau yr wythnos hon. Diolch.
Official English translation
Let's make a start. I would first of all like to inform Members that, in accordance with Standing Order 26.87, I have established and published the timetable for the Member Bill ballots for the seventh Senedd. Two ballots will be held, the first on Wednesday 14 October and the second on Wednesday 7 July 2027. The process for Member Bill ballots is new for the seventh Senedd. For the first time, these will be name-only ballots. Further detail about the ballots, together with information about the training that will be available on the Member Bill process, will be issued to all Members this week. Thank you.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Nawr, symudwn i eitem 1, cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog. Cwestiwn 1, Cai Parry-Jones.
Official English translation
Now, we will move on to item 1, questions to the First Minister. The first question is from Cai Parry-Jones.
1. Questions to the First Minister en
Brif Weinidog, diolch. And as you've raised Standing Orders, I'm sure the Member who spoke was speaking on behalf of his constituents as well, whilst drawing on a personal experience. But, just to clarify, indeed, speaking on behalf of constituents is our imperative here. Carrie Harper.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Galwaf yn awr ar arweinwyr y pleidiau i holi'r Prif Weinidog. Yn gyntaf, arweinydd Reform UK, Dan Thomas.
Official English translation
I now call on the party leaders to question the First Minister. First, the leader of Reform UK, Dan Thomas.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Arweinydd Llafur Cymru, Ken Skates.
Official English translation
The leader of Welsh Labour, Ken Skates.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Arweinydd y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig, Darren Millar.
Official English translation
The leader of the Welsh Conservatives, Darren Millar.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Ac yn olaf, Brif Weinidog, cwestiwn 11 gan James Evans.
Official English translation
And finally, First Minister, question 11 from James Evans.
3. Business Statement and Announcement cy
Diolch, Drefnydd.
Official English translation
Thank you, Trefnydd.
4. Statement by the First Minister: Legislation cy
Symudwn at eitem 4, datganiad gan y Prif Weinidog. Galwaf ar y Prif Weinidog, Rhun ap Iorwerth.
Official English translation
We'll move now to item 4, statement by the First Minister. I call on the First Minister, Rhun ap Iorwerth.
4. Statement by the First Minister: Legislation en
Diolch, Brif Weinidog. Before I turn to the leader of Welsh Labour, can I just pick up on the point that was just made? This is a gentle reminder but a clear reminder that normally, out of respect for this Chamber, significant announcements would be made in the Chamber and then face scrutiny within the Chamber. So, I just ask the Government and the First Minister to reflect on that, rather than it being announced outside of this Chamber and then coming here. Ken Skates.
4. Statement by the First Minister: Legislation en
Now, we're going to move to one-minute contributions. I'm going to see if we can call everybody, but let's see how we get on.
4. Statement by the First Minister: Legislation cy
Yn gyntaf, Peredur Owen Griffiths.
Official English translation
First, Peredur Owen Griffiths.
4. Statement by the First Minister: Legislation cy
Yn olaf, James Evans.
Official English translation
Finally, James Evans.
4. Statement by the First Minister: Legislation cy
Diolch, Brif Weinidog.
Official English translation
Thank you, First Minister.
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Symudwn at eitem 5 nawr, datganiad gan y Dirprwy Brif Weinidog a Gweinidog Cabinet dros Gyfiawnder Cymdeithasol a Chydraddoldeb: diweddariad ar ofal plant a chwarae'r blynyddoedd cynnar. Galwaf ar y Dirprwy Brif Weinidog a Gweinidog, Sioned Williams.
Official English translation
We'll now move on to item 5, statement by the Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Minister for Social Justice and Equality: update on early years childcare and play. I call on the Deputy First Minister and Minister, Sioned Williams.
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We'll move now to the one-minute contributions. We have many speakers, but not enough time, I think, to accommodate all, but, bear with us, we'll see how we can do with everybody's help. Kiera Marshall.
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Gweinidog y Cabinet.
Official English translation
Cabinet Minister.
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Sera, mae'n rhaid ichi orffen.
Official English translation
Sera, you must conclude.
8. Legislative Consent Motion: Steel Industry (Nationalisation) Bill cy
Eitem 8 nawr, cynnig cydsyniad deddfwriaethol, Bil y Diwydiant Dur (Gwladoli). Galwaf ar y Gweinidog Cabinet dros Fenter, Cysylltedd ac Ynni i wneud y cynnig—Adam Price.
Official English translation
Item 8, legislative consent motion, Steel Industry (Nationalisation) Bill. I call on the Cabinet Minister for Enterprise, Connectivity and Energy to move the motion—Adam Price.
8. Legislative Consent Motion: Steel Industry (Nationalisation) Bill cy
Galwaf nawr ar Gadeirydd y Pwyllgor Deddfwriaeth, Sarah Cooper-Lesadd.
Official English translation
I now call on the Chair of the Legislation Committee, Sarah Cooper-Lesadd.
8. Legislative Consent Motion: Steel Industry (Nationalisation) Bill cy
Diolch. Galwaf nawr ar y Gweinidog Cabinet i ymateb i'r ddadl.
Official English translation
Thank you. I now call on the Cabinet Minister to reply to the debate.
8. Legislative Consent Motion: Steel Industry (Nationalisation) Bill cy
Diolch, Weinidog Cabinet. Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn y cynnig? A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? [Gwrthwynebiad.] Gwrthwynebiad. Felly, gohiriaf y bleidlais o dan yr eitem hon tan y cyfnod pleidleisio.
Official English translation
Thank you, Cabinet Minister. The proposal is to agree the motion. Does any Member object? [Objection.] There is objection. I will therefore defer voting under this item until voting time.
8. Legislative Consent Motion: Steel Industry (Nationalisation) Bill en
Now, as Members will have noticed, we have some technical issues at the moment. We'll need to suspend proceedings for around 10 minutes to resolve those technical issues. We will provide an update as soon as possible, and we will ring the bell five minutes before we reconvene. So, we'll suspend proceedings now, please.
9. Debate: The First Supplementary Budget 2026-27 cy
Croeso nôl. Rydyn ni'n symud ymlaen nawr at eitem 9, dadl y gyllideb atodol gyntaf 2026-27. Galwaf ar y Gweinidog Cabinet dros Gyllid i wneud y cynnig—Elin Jones.
Official English translation
Welcome back. We now move to item 9, debate on the first supplementary budget 2026-27. I call on the Cabinet Minister for Finance to move the motion—Elin Jones.
9. Debate: The First Supplementary Budget 2026-27 en
Members may note that the electronic clock is not working.
9. Debate: The First Supplementary Budget 2026-27 en
As such, I will helpfully remind Members if they exceed the time. I ask Members to work with me; there are a lot of speakers down for this debate.
9. Debate: The First Supplementary Budget 2026-27 cy
Galwaf yn awr ar Gadeirydd y Pwyllgor Cyllid, Sam Rowlands.
Official English translation
I call now on the Chair of the Finance Committee, Sam Rowlands.
9. Debate: The First Supplementary Budget 2026-27 en
Huw, my apologies. My apologies. It is sometimes challenging to hear contributions in the Chamber. Please if you can keep the noise down so we can hear.
9. Debate: The First Supplementary Budget 2026-27 en
Could I just remind Members—? I understand that people want to contribute. We also want to hear the speakers, and people outside this Chamber are watching proceedings. We need to hear what the speakers are saying. Darren Millar.
9. Debate: The First Supplementary Budget 2026-27 cy
Sera Evans, fel Cadeirydd Pwyllgor y Blynyddoedd Cynnar, Plant, Pobl Ifanc ac Addysg. Sera.
Official English translation
Sera Evans, as Chair of the Early Years, Children, Young People and Education Committee. Sera.
9. Debate: The First Supplementary Budget 2026-27 cy
Diolch. James Evans, fel Cadeirydd y Pwyllgor Newid Hinsawdd, yr Amgylchedd, Cynaliadwyedd a Materion Gwledig. James Evans.
Official English translation
Thank you. James Evans, as Chair of the Climate Change, Environment, Sustainability and Rural Affairs Committee. James Evans.
9. Debate: The First Supplementary Budget 2026-27 en
Diolch. We've had many Members put in to speak in this debate, but, unfortunately, we will not be able to call everybody. We're up against time.
9. Debate: The First Supplementary Budget 2026-27 cy
Galwaf ar y Gweinidog Cabinet nawr i ymateb i'r ddadl.
Official English translation
I call on the Cabinet Minister to reply to the debate.
9. Debate: The First Supplementary Budget 2026-27 en
Well, I do, indeed, and I'm giving you some latitude.
9. Debate: The First Supplementary Budget 2026-27 cy
Ewch ymlaen.
Official English translation
Go on.
9. Debate: The First Supplementary Budget 2026-27 en
You took a couple of interventions.
9. Debate: The First Supplementary Budget 2026-27 en
Away you go, you're fine.
9. Debate: The First Supplementary Budget 2026-27 cy
Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn y cynnig? A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? [Gwrthwynebiad.] Gohiriaf y bleidlais o dan yr eitem hon tan y cyfnod pleidleisio.
Official English translation
The proposal is to agree the motion. Does any Member object? [Objection.] I will defer voting under this item until voting time.
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Symudwn i'r cyfnod pleidleisio nawr. Oni bai bod pum Aelod yn dymuno imi ganu'r gloch, symudaf yn syth i'r cyfnod pleidleisio. Eitem 8 yn gyntaf, cynnig cydsyniad deddfwriaethol—Bil y Diwydiant Dur (Gwladoli). Galwaf am bleidlais ar y cynnig, a gyflwynwyd yn enw Adam Price. Agorwch y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 86, yn ymatal neb, yn erbyn saith. Mae'r cynnig wedi ei dderbyn.
Official English translation
We will now move to voting time. Unless five Members wish for the bell to be rung, I will proceed directly to voting time. The first vote is on item 8, the legislative consent motion on the Steel Industry (Nationalisation) Bill. I call for a vote on the motion, tabled in the name of Adam Price. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 86, no abstentions and seven against. The motion is therefore agreed.
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Nesaf, eitem 9, dadl ar y gyllideb atodol gyntaf 2026-27. Galwaf am bleidlais ar y cynnig, a gyflwynwyd yn enw Heledd Fychan. Agorwch y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 44, neb yn ymatal, yn erbyn 49. Mae'r cynnig wedi ei wrthod.
Official English translation
Next, a vote on item 9, the debate on the first supplementary budget for 2026-27. I call for a vote on the motion, tabled in the name of Heledd Fychan. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 44, no abstentions and 49 against. The motion is therefore not agreed.
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That brings today's proceedings to a close. Diolch, bawb.
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1. Questions to the Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Minister for Social Justice cy
Prynhawn da. Cwestiynau nawr i’r Dirprwy Brif Weinidog a’r Gweinidog Cabinet dros Gyfiawnder Cymdeithasol a Chydraddoldeb, Sioned Williams. Cwestiwn 1, Helen Jenner.
Official English translation
Good afternoon. Questions now to the Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Minister for Social Justice, Sioned Williams. Question 1, Helen Jenner.
1. Questions to the Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Minister for Social Justice cy
Galwaf yn awr ar lefarwyr y pleidiau i holi'r Gweinidog Cabinet. Llefarydd Reform UK, Sarah Cooper-Lesadd.
Official English translation
I now call on the party spokespeople to question the Cabinet Minister. Reform UK spokesperson, Sarah Cooper-Lesadd.
1. Questions to the Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Minister for Social Justice en
[Inaudible.]—you have to ask your question to link this to the Cabinet Minister—
1. Questions to the Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Minister for Social Justice cy
Llefarydd y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig, Natasha Asghar.
Official English translation
Welsh Conservative spokesperson, Natasha Asghar.
1. Questions to the Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Minister for Social Justice cy
Yn olaf ar y cwestiynau yma, cwestiwn 6—Jason O'Connell.
Official English translation
Finally on these questions, question 6—Jason O'Connell.
1. Questions to the Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Minister for Social Justice cy
Diolch, Weinidog Cabinet.
Official English translation
Thank you, Cabinet Minister.
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Rural Resilience and Sustainability cy
Eitem 2 nawr, cwestiynau i'r Gweinidog Cabinet dros Wydnwch Gwledig a Chynaliadwyedd, Llyr Gruffydd. Cwestiynau i Llyr Gruffydd. Cwestiwn 1—Huw Thomas.
Official English translation
Item 2 now, questions to the Cabinet Minister for Rural Resilience and Sustainability, Llyr Gruffydd. So, these are questions to Llyr Gruffydd. Question 1—Huw Thomas.
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Rural Resilience and Sustainability cy
Galwaf yn awr ar lefarwyr y pleidiau i holi'r Gweinidog Cabinet. Yn gyntaf, llefarydd Reform UK, Laura Anne Jones.
Official English translation
I now call on the party spokespeople to question the Cabinet Minister. First of all, Reform UK spokesperson, Laura Anne Jones.
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Rural Resilience and Sustainability cy
Llefarydd Llafur Cymru, Vikki Howells.
Official English translation
Welsh Labour spokesperson, Vikki Howells.
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Rural Resilience and Sustainability cy
Llefarydd y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig, Andrew R.T. Davies.
Official English translation
Welsh Conservative spokesperson, Andrew R.T. Davies.
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Rural Resilience and Sustainability cy
Cwestiwn 8, yn olaf, Kiera Marshall.
Official English translation
Finally, question 8, Kiera Marshall.
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Diolch, Ddirprwy Lywydd. I rise today to mark a momentous milestone in the history of Welsh maritime rescue, the sixtieth anniversary of the Port Talbot RNLI lifeboat station, which first established its vital inshore presence on Aberavon beach back in 1966. For six decades, the brave men and women of Port Talbot have protected our coastal communities. When the pager sounds, day or night, they leave the safety of their homes to brave the unpredictable waters of the Bristol channel. They embody the very best of public service and selflessness. But a lifeboat station is far more than its heroic sea crew. It's an entire ecosystem of dedication. We extend the deepest thanks of this Senedd to every single individual who keeps the service running: the shore crew, the fundraisers, the shop volunteers, the trustees. Their unwavering commitment behind the scenes saves lives. We pay tribute to the station's present and past presidents, and all the supporters who have steered Port Talbot RNLI through challenges and triumphs. Whether navigating the treacherous surf or raising vital funds to keep this station running, the community's generosity has never faltered. Six decades of service is a remarkable legacy of lives saved and families kept together.
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Diolch o galon i wirfoddolwyr bad achub Port Talbot.
Official English translation
A big thank you to the Port Talbot lifeboat volunteers.
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Thank you all for 60 years of bravery, dedication and unwavering service to Wales. Diolch yn fawr.
7. Reform UK Debate: The tourism sector cy
Rwyf wedi dethol y gwelliant i'r cynnig. Galwaf ar y Gweinidog Cabinet dros Fenter, Cysylltedd ac Ynni i gynnig yn ffurfiol welliant 1 a gyflwynwyd yn enw Helen Fychan.
Official English translation
I have selected the amendment to the motion. I call on the Cabinet Minister for Enterprise, Connectivity and Energy to move formally amendment 1, tabled in the name of Heledd Fychan.
7. Reform UK Debate: The tourism sector en
We have one late request to speak on this, but if you could keep it very short, please. Stephen Senior.
7. Reform UK Debate: The tourism sector en
Diolch yn fawr iawn, and you did indeed keep it very short. Diolch.
7. Reform UK Debate: The tourism sector cy
Galwaf ar y Gweinidog Cabinet dros Fenter, Cysylltedd ac Ynni, Adam Price.
Official English translation
I call on the Cabinet Minister for Enterprise, Connectivity and Energy, Adam Price.
7. Reform UK Debate: The tourism sector cy
Galwaf yn awr ar Tom Montgomery i ymateb i'r ddadl.
Official English translation
I call on Tom Montgomery to reply to the debate.
7. Reform UK Debate: The tourism sector cy
Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn y cynnig heb ei ddiwygio? A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? [Gwrthwynebiad.] Gwrthwynebu. Gohiriaf y bleidlais o dan yr eitem hon tan y cyfnod pleidleisio.
Official English translation
The proposal is to agree the motion without amendment. Does any Member object? [Objection.] There is objection. I will therefore defer voting under this item until voting time.
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Rydyn ni'n dod nawr i'r cyfnod pleidleisio. Oni bai fod pum Aelod yn dymuno imi ganu'r gloch, symudaf yn syth i'r cyfnod pleidleisio. Na. Ocê, yn gyntaf, o dan eitem 6, dadl Aelodau: gwasanaethau offthalmoleg. Galwaf am bleidlais ar y cynnig a gyflwynwyd yn enw Gwyn Williams. Agorwch y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 75, ymatal 14, neb yn erbyn.
Official English translation
That brings us to voting time. Unless five Members wish for the bell to be rung, I will proceed directly to voting time. No. Okay, we will first vote on item 6, the Member debate on ophthalmology services. I call for a vote on the motion tabled in the name of Gwyn Williams. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 75, 14 abstentions and none against.
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The motion is agreed.
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Felly, nawr rydyn ni'n mynd i'r pleidleisio ar eitem 7, dadl Reform UK. Galwaf am bleidlais ar y cynnig a gyflwynwyd yn enw Llŷr Powell. Os gwrthodir y cynnig, byddwn yn pleidleisio ar y gwelliant a gyflwynwyd i'r cynnig. Agorwch y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 38, does neb yn ymatal, yn erbyn 51. Mae'r cynnig wedi ei wrthod.
Official English translation
We will now move to the votes under item 7, the Reform UK debate. I call for a vote on the motion tabled in the name of Llŷr Powell. If the proposal is not agreed, we will vote on the amendment tabled to the motion. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 38, there are no abstentions and there are 51 against. The motion is therefore not agreed.
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Felly, rydyn ni'n symud i welliant 1. Galwaf am bleidlais ar welliant 1 a gyflwynwyd yn enw Heledd Fychan. Agorwch y bleidlais. Caewch y bleidlais. O blaid 51, neb yn ymatal, yn erbyn 38. Mae gwelliant 1 wedi'i dderbyn.
Official English translation
We will move to a vote on amendment 1. I call for a vote on amendment 1, tabled in the name of Heledd Fychan. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 51, no abstentions, and 38 against. Therefore, amendment 1 is agreed.
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Galwaf nawr am bleidlais ar y cynnig wedi'i ddiwygio.
Official English translation
We will now move to a vote on the motion as amended.
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Agorwch y bleidlais. Caewch y bleidlais. O blaid 51, neb yn ymatal, yn erbyn 38. Mae'r cynnig wedi'i ddiwygio wedi'i dderbyn.
Official English translation
Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 51, no abstentions, and there are 38 against. Therefore, the motion as amended is agreed.
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Diolch, bawb.
Official English translation
Thank you, all.
9. Short Debate: Health inequalities in the south Wales coalfield en
So, we now move to today's short debate. Could I ask Members who are leaving to do so quietly and calmly before we begin the debate?
9. Short Debate: Health inequalities in the south Wales coalfield cy
Diolch yn fawr. Symudwn yn awr at ddadl fer heddiw, a galwaf ar Matthew Jones i siarad am y pwnc a ddewiswyd ganddo.
Official English translation
Thank you very much. We will move to this afternoon's short debate, and I call on Matthew Jones to speak to the topic that he has chosen.
9. Short Debate: Health inequalities in the south Wales coalfield cy
Galwaf ar y Dirprwy Weinidog dros Iechyd Cyhoeddus ac Ataliol i ymateb i'r ddadl—Nerys Evans.
Official English translation
I call on the Deputy Minister for Public and Preventative Health to reply to the debate—Nerys Evans.
9. Short Debate: Health inequalities in the south Wales coalfield cy
Diolch, Ddirprwy Weinidog. Daw hynny â thrafodion heddiw i ben. Diolch, bawb.
Official English translation
Thank you, Deputy Minister. That brings today's proceedings to a close. Thank you all.
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1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Prynhawn da, bawb. Cwestiynau nawr i'r Prif Weinidog. Cwestiwn 1, Carrie Harper.
Official English translation
Good afternoon. We'll move now to questions to the First Minister. Question 1, Carrie Harper.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Galwaf nawr ar arweinwyr y pleidiau i holi'r Prif Weinidog. Arweinydd Reform UK, Dan Thomas.
Official English translation
I now call on the party leaders to question the First Minister. The leader of Reform UK, Dan Thomas.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Arweinydd Llafur Cymru, Ken Skates.
Official English translation
The leader of Welsh Labour, Ken Skates.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Arweinydd y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig, Darren Millar.
Official English translation
Leader of the Welsh Conservatives, Darren Millar.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Cwestiwn, Darren.
Official English translation
Question, Darren.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Cwestiwn 9 [OQ64355], tynnwyd yn ôl. Felly, cwestiwn 10, Lindsay Whittle.
Official English translation
Question 9 [OQ64355] is withdrawn. Question 10, Lindsay Whittle.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Diolch, Brif Weinidog. Arhoswch am funud.
Official English translation
Thank you, First Minister. Wait just a moment.
1. Questions to the First Minister en
Lynne Neagle has indicated—. Ken Skates. Lynne Neagle—. Ken Skates has indicated he'd like to raise a point of order.
1. Questions to the First Minister en
Thank you to Ken Skates for raising that. It's not a point of order, but he has read into the Record, Prif Weinidog, what is considered a factual correction. However, Prif Weinidog, you don't have to respond, but, if you want to respond, you have the opportunity. You don't have to, though.
1. Questions to the First Minister en
Diolch yn fawr iawn. Thank you. The Member has put his version on the Record, and the Prif Weinidog has responded. Thank you very much.
2. Business Statement and Announcement cy
Nawr, nesaf, eitem 2, y datganiad a chyhoeddiad busnes. Galwaf ar y Trefnydd, Heledd Fychan.
Official English translation
We'll move next to item 2, the business statement and announcement. And I call on the Trefnydd, Heledd Fychan.
2. Business Statement and Announcement en
Question, please.
2. Business Statement and Announcement cy
Ac yn olaf, Laura Anne Jones.
Official English translation
And finally, Laura Anne Jones.
5. Statement by the Deputy Minister for Transport: Our Vision for the Devolution of Rail cy
Diolch yn fawr iawn.
Official English translation
Thank you very much.
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Rŷn ni'n symud nawr i eitem 6, sef datganiad gan y Dirprwy Weinidog dros Ofal Cymdeithasol, Iechyd Meddwl ac Iechyd Menywod: blaenoriaethau ar gyfer gofal cymdeithasol, iechyd meddwl ac iechyd menywod. Galwaf nawr ar y Dirprwy Weinidog, Delyth Jewell.
Official English translation
We'll move now to item 6, a statement by the Deputy Minister for Social Care, Mental Health and Women's Health: priorities for social care, mental health and women's health. I now call on the Deputy Minister, Delyth Jewell.
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Thank you, Dirprwy Weinidog. We're going to try and speed things up a little bit, because we've got a long list of Members and probably six, seven minutes to try and get through these. So, if Members and the Deputy Minister can assist us. We'll go first to Safa Elhassan.
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Ac yn olaf, Iain McIntosh.
Official English translation
And finally, Iain McIntosh.
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Diolch, Ddirprwy Weinidog.
Official English translation
Thank you, Deputy Minister.
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Eitem 7 nawr, dadl ar ariannu teg. Galwaf ar y Prif Weinidog i wneud y cynnig—Rhun ap Iorwerth.
Official English translation
Eitem 7 is next, a debate on fair funding. I call on the First Minister to move the motion—Rhun ap Iorwerth.
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Diolch, Brif Weinidog. Rwyf wedi dethol y tri gwelliant i'r cynnig. Os derbynnir gwelliant 1, caiff gwelliannau 2 a 3 eu dad-ddethol. Os derbynnir gwelliant 2, caiff gwelliant 3 ei ddad-ddethol. Galwaf nawr ar Huw Thomas i gynnig gwelliant 1, a gyflwynwyd yn enw Lynne Neagle.
Official English translation
Thank you, First Minister. I have selected the three amendments to the motion. If amendment 1 is agreed, amendments 2 and 3 will be deselected. If amendment 2 is agreed, amendment 3 will be deselected. I call now on Huw Thomas to move amendment 1, tabled in the name of Lynne Neagle.
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Galwaf yn awr ar Dan Thomas i gynnig gwelliant 2, a gyflwynwyd yn enw Llŷr Powell.
Official English translation
I now call on Dan Thomas to move amendment 2, tabled in the name of Llŷr Powell.
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Galwaf ar Darren Millar i gynnig gwelliant 3 a gyflwynwyd yn enw Paul Davies.
Official English translation
I call on Darren Millar to move amendment 3, tabled in the name of Paul Davies.
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We are going to try and squeeze in a couple of speakers here if you can help me. Alun Cox.
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Yn fyr iawn, os yn bosibl, Anthony Slaughter.
Official English translation
Very briefly, if possible, Anthony Slaughter.
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Galwaf yn awr ar y Prif Weinidog i ymateb i'r ddadl.
Official English translation
I now call on the First Minister to reply to the debate.
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Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 1? A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? [Gwrthwynebiad.] Oes. Gohiriaf y bleidlais o dan yr eitem hon tan y cyfnod pleidleisio.
Official English translation
The proposal is to agree amendment 1. Does any Member object? [Objection.] There are objections. I will therefore defer voting under this item until voting time.
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Rydym ni'n symud i eitem 8, y cyfnod pleidleisio. Oni bai bod pum Aelod yn dymuno imi ganu'r gloch, symudaf yn syth i'r cyfnod pleidleisio.
Official English translation
We will move now to item 8, voting time. Unless five Members wish for the bell to be rung, I will proceed directly to voting time.
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I call for a vote on amendment 1, tabled in the name of Lynne Neagle. If amendment 1 is agreed, amendments 2 and 3 will be deselected. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour eight, abstentions zero, against 83 votes. Amendment 1 is not agreed.
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We go to amendment 2. I call for a vote on amendment 2, tabled in the name of Llŷr Powell. If amendment 2 is agreed, amendment 3 will be deselected. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 32, abstentions zero, against 59. Amendment 2 is not agreed.
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We go to amendment 3. I call for a vote on amendment 3, tabled in the name of Paul Davies. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour six, abstentions zero, against 85. Amendment 3 is not agreed.
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I call for a vote on the motion, tabled in the name of Heledd Fychan. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 45, abstentions zero, against 46. The motion is not agreed.
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And that brings today's proceedings to a close.
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1. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Enterprise, Connectivity and Energy cy
Prynhawn da, bawb. Eitem 1 heddiw yw cwestiynau i’r Gweinidog Cabinet dros Fenter, Cysylltedd ac Ynni. Yn gyntaf, cwestiwn 1, Sera Evans.
Official English translation
Good afternoon. Item 1 this afternoon is questions to the Cabinet Minister for Enterprise, Connectivity and Energy, and the first question is from Sera Evans.
1. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Enterprise, Connectivity and Energy cy
Galwaf yn awr ar lefarwyr y pleidiau i holi'r Gweinidog Cabinet. Yn gyntaf, llefarydd Reform UK, Jason O'Connell.
Official English translation
I now call the party spokespeople to question the Cabinet Minister. First of all, Reform UK spokesperson, Jason O'Connell.
1. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Enterprise, Connectivity and Energy cy
Llefarydd Llafur Cymru, Vikki Howells.
Official English translation
Welsh Labour spokesperson, Vikki Howells.
1. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Enterprise, Connectivity and Energy cy
Llefarydd y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig, Janet Finch-Saunders.
Official English translation
Welsh Conservatives spokesperson, Janet Finch-Saunders.
1. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Enterprise, Connectivity and Energy en
[Inaudible.]
1. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Enterprise, Connectivity and Energy en
[Inaudible.]
1. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Enterprise, Connectivity and Energy en
We are indeed a nation of story-tellers, but I'm going to ask for the Cabinet Minister's help now to rattle along through some other questions, so we can get through the order paper. [Laughter.]
1. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Enterprise, Connectivity and Energy cy
Cwestiwn 4, Carmelo Colasanto.
Official English translation
Question 4, Carmelo Colasanto.
1. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Enterprise, Connectivity and Energy cy
Yn olaf, cwestiwn 7, Gareth Beer.
Official English translation
Finally, question 7, Gareth Beer.
1. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Enterprise, Connectivity and Energy cy
Oes supplementary gyda chi?
Official English translation
Do you have a supplementary?
1. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Enterprise, Connectivity and Energy cy
Paid â phoeni. Diolch, Weinidog Cabinet.
Official English translation
Don't worry. Thank you, Cabinet Minister.
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Education and the Welsh Language cy
Gadewch i ni fynd ymlaen nawr i'r cwestiynau nesaf: eitem 2, cwestiynau i'r Gweinidog Cabinet dros Addysg a'r Gymraeg. Cwestiwn 1, Paul Marr.
Official English translation
Let's move on now to our next set of questions: item 2, questions to the Cabinet Minister for Education and the Welsh Language. Question 1, Paul Marr.
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Education and the Welsh Language cy
Galwaf yn awr ar lefarwyr y pleidiau i holi'r Gweinidog Cabinet. Yn gyntaf, llefarydd Reform UK, Helen Jenner.
Official English translation
I now call on the party spokespeople to question the Cabinet Minister. First of all, Reform UK's spokesperson, Helen Jenner.
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Education and the Welsh Language cy
Llefarydd Llafur Cymru, Lynne Neagle.
Official English translation
Welsh Labour spokesperson, Lynne Neagle.
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Education and the Welsh Language cy
Llefarydd y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig, Sam Rowlands.
Official English translation
Welsh Conservative spokesperson, Sam Rowlands.
3. Questions to the Senedd Commission en
Diolch, Sarah. Dirprwy Lywydd, the Commission provides Members with training and guidance on standards and behaviour from the outset of each Senedd. Following the election, this was included at multiple points in the welcome, the onboarding and the induction programme, including pre-arrival information, the successful candidate pack, welcome activity and briefings, and phase 1 training within the first fortnight. This covered the code of conduct, register of interests, use of Senedd resources, dignity and respect, leadership and behaviour as employers. Attendance and completion are monitored through booking and attendance records, including through the learning management system.
3. Questions to the Senedd Commission en
Yes, indeed. Thank you for that supplementary. And it is important to note that this is an ongoing programme, it's not a one-off, and it's not done for the sake of it, either, because we recognise in the Commission that the awareness of legal and reputational risks is key for every single Member within the Senedd, both in relation to their role as a Member, but also as an employer as well. So, that training is available to all Members on an ongoing basis, and they can refresh and update that training as well. So, that'll continue throughout the duration of the four-year Senedd term for Members and also for their staff as well. And we do recognise, by the way, that Members need information at the right time; there's been a welter of information thrown at Members in the initial few weeks, and my thanks to all those members of the Commission staff who provided that as well, but we recognise we're going to need to come back. But there's been a good uptake initially, I have to say, in terms of code of conduct training on live courses, and also encouraging around dignity and respect as well, and some Members who weren't able to attend have sought to have the information then sent to them as well. So, I definitely agree with the Member in saying this needs to be an ongoing process, and it's in the interests of each Member as an employer, as well as within this place.
3. Questions to the Senedd Commission cy
Diolch. Mae'r Comisiwn yn ymgysylltu'n rheolaidd â staff ac undebau llafur cydnabyddedig ar bynciau iechyd, diogelwch a llesiant, gan gynnwys effaith gwres eithafol. Rhannwyd gohebiaeth ar y gwres eithafol diweddar â chynrychiolwyr undebau llafur. Mae'r Comisiwn hefyd wedi cyhoeddi canllawiau ar y fewnrwyd i Aelodau, eu staff cymorth a staff y Comisiwn ynghylch sut i aros yn gyfforddus mewn tywydd poeth a sut i reoli tymheredd ystafelloedd ar draws yr ystâd. Cefnogir hyn gan fesurau ymarferol, sy'n cynnwys mynediad at fannau oeri, hydradu a gweithio hyblyg.
Official English translation
Thank you. The Commission engages regularly with staff and recognised trade unions on health, safety and well-being issues, including the impact of extreme heat. Correspondence on the recent extreme heat was shared with trade union representatives. The Commission has also published guidance on the intranet for Members, their support staff and Commission staff, covering how to stay comfortable in hot weather and how to manage room temperatures across the estate. This is supported by practical measures, including access to cooling spaces, hydration and flexible working.
3. Questions to the Senedd Commission en
In addition, the Senedd Commission’s leadership team, comprising all its senior managers, has had briefings, which have ensured a co-ordinated response across the organisation, with all heads of service actively engaging with their managers and teams to share information, provide support and check on staff welfare during periods of extreme heat. We'll continue to work in partnership with staff representatives to review these arrangements and to ensure that this estate remains a safe and comfortable working environment.
3. Questions to the Senedd Commission en
I recognise the long-standing trade union campaign around maximum heat. That's not within our gift here, to take that forward. I should, Dirprwy Lywydd, refer Members to my own declaration of interest around union membership as well—there are several unions there. But what we have been able to do is to work with the TUS, the trade union side here, in an established partnership approach, which is the way we do it here within this estate. We've engaged in all these health and safety matters, including temperature issues, including the recent incidents as well. So, that joint working has included committee discussions and working groups addressing the environmental conditions on the estate. In the very recent extreme red weather warnings—and we may see more of these in times to come—we made adjustments to working patterns and locations in discussion with the trade union side, we put in place additional support for vulnerable staff, we took forward business continuity planning in relation to things like school closures that were affecting members of staff as well, and also made sure that this is a safe working environment. We'll keep that partnership approach going.
3. Questions to the Senedd Commission en
Diolch, Gwyn. There has been no Senedd Commission activity undertaken in relation to opening an office in Swansea. [Interruption.] Diolch, Mike. During the financial year 2023-24, the Senedd Commission Ways of Working programme created a work stream to ensure an effective regional base for outreach, public information, education and translation services in north Wales, and also to explore potential opportunities for developing the Senedd Commission’s regional footprint over time and bringing forward proposals for doing so. Whilst the north Wales office move to Llandudno Junction was successfully completed in summer 2024, no further work has been undertaken to explore further regional offices at this time as, following extensive engagement with Members in the sixth Senedd, there was no identified demand at that time for such a facility.
3. Questions to the Senedd Commission en
The Member, in his sterling advocacy for all things Swansea, has received both cheers and jeers during his contribution, from different Members from different areas. Can I just say that we always keep alive to this? There is a commitment from the Senedd Commission to review, as and when the need is identified and arises. We simply haven't undertaken any work at the moment because, in the sixth Senedd, they looked at this and there was no identified need. But can I just say on the positive side here? Separate from moving offices and opening new facilities, we do actually, as a Commission, attend many, many events and activities in different areas. Indeed, last summer we were at the Swansea air shows. During the past few months, we've attended a range of events in places like Swansea University, Swansea multicultural hub, Port Talbot YMCA, University of Wales Trinity Saint David, and many more. So, we do get out and about, regardless of physically relocating or opening new offices. But thank you for the question.
3. Questions to the Senedd Commission en
I am worried, Dirprwy Lywydd, that we're opening now a bidding war over the coming weeks of people who want offices opened in their area. But I do understand what the Member is saying. I would simply reflect on my earlier response, which is we always keep this live and we look for where the identified demand is. But the Member also said to me, 'We need to make sure that we're making efficient use of resources', and we agree as well. And of course, there is a difference between the Senedd offices and Welsh Government offices. So, I won't be drawn on that particular matter, if you don't mind.
3. Questions to the Senedd Commission en
A comprehensive security framework is in place to support Members in carrying out their duties. This combines a strong protective security presence on the Senedd estate, along with Members having access to tailored advice, guidance, incident reporting and security measures in Members' homes and their constituency offices. Members also have access to a dedicated social media monitoring service, operated by Senedd security. These arrangements are further strengthened by close partnership working with the police, including a substantial onsite presence and intelligence sharing through national programmes, alongside collaboration with other security partners across Wales and the UK, so we have a consistent and joined-up approach to Member security. There is also an annual planning process for Senedd security, to assess and plan for resource requirements, alongside a structured approach assessing the provision of police resources. Finally, this is complemented, Dirprwy Lywydd, by continuous, dynamic risk assessments, undertaken by Senedd security, the police locally and nationally, and by UK-wide security service partners.
3. Questions to the Senedd Commission en
The Member draws important attention to the fact that many people now in public life—both here in the Senedd and in the UK Parliament, but anybody in high-profile work—are now subject to this type of scrutiny, which can indeed lead to abuse, hostility, violence and worse, as we have seen. And it is unacceptable, and the message should go out from this Senedd Siambr that it is simply unacceptable. We can have debate and differences of opinion, but we can do it in a respectful way that does not lead to this open hostility and violence that we are seeing. You're absolutely true in saying that, in our monitoring of incidents, we see common themes. That can include racial abuse and misogyny, discriminatory cultural assumptions, targeted harassment, strongly expressed political views and grievances, some of which include inappropriate language, which then escalate into abuse and hostile or intimidating commentary, or worse, as the Member has said, and we should all condemn that. So, certainly, in terms of our approach, the security and the policing presence that we have, and the security monitoring, is very carefully calibrated, considering the risk and ensuring visibility and reassurance without being unduly intrusive, and there is a question of engaging with the Members individually. If any Member here—any Member—has any cause for concern, they should raise it directly with our security and policing presence, so that we can respond to their concerns. We want all Members to be safe in doing their job and able to engage with their community.
3. Questions to the Senedd Commission en
We take on board the point that the Member makes, which is that the discourse we have here in the Chamber and outside can either moderate and temper wider behaviour and wider societal norms, or it can escalate and inflame issues. I was taken recently, when I attended a really well-organised event in public that follows on from the Jo Cox Foundation—a More in Common event; many people will have attended them—bringing people together in neighbourhoods, in celebration, in joy and in happiness. People of different views, people of different backgrounds, different nations, different creeds and colours and so on, but bringing everybody together around that idea that we have more in common. And if we can collectively appeal to that approach, then I think we can do a good job here in the Senedd Chamber—in the Siambr—but also outside as well. Political differences are one thing, but we can do that in a way that is respectful of those political differences and sends a message to wider society that we can have political differences, but respect each other as well.
3. Questions to the Senedd Commission en
A wide range of television channels and radio stations, including GB News, can be accessed using the Senedd IT network on laptops and other Senedd Commission-issued devices. The primary purpose of the internal tv system on the Senedd estate is to provide broadcast feeds of the Siambr and committee rooms, so that staff can follow business proceedings. In addition, and under our existing policy, only those channels that have public service obligations as set out in the Communications Act 2003 can be accessed, with the one addition of Sky News to ensure plurality of news programmes. The policy was agreed by the previous Commissioners. All our policies are subject to occasional review, and we could consider whether to do so at the appropriate time.
3. Questions to the Senedd Commission en
Thank you for the supplementary. Those competing perspectives can be accessed, and I repeat, by all Members on the devices that are provided to them, whether it's on their laptops or other Senedd devices, and they can access them here within their workspace as well. I came from a different political institution, where green screens were in common use. The primary purpose was to inform Members who was speaking in the chamber and in committees. You didn't walk around watching tv screens, you watched to see who was on, and if they were good, you'd run and see them. However, as I pointed out, this can be reviewed from time to time, if there's an appropriate time to review. In fact, the new commissioners have recently been appointed, as Members will know. We held our first meeting only last week. Should it be the will of the Commissioners to bring this for discussion, then, of course, we can look at it. But I come back to that primary point: the purpose of monitors around the building is not to watch news or daytime tv or whatever. They're to follow the business of the Chamber and committees.
3. Questions to the Senedd Commission en
Thank you for that supplementary. I have little to add to that. The history of this is indeed that GB News was originally removed from the Senedd Commission's internal tv network, following a broadcast that was deemed by Ofcom to break broadcasting rules, to protect viewers from offensive content. At that time, the decision was made by the Llywydd to remove the channel from internal networks in response to a broadcast that was deemed to be deliberately offensive to women in public life in particular, and to dignified public debate more generally. So, bearing in mind the conversation we had in response to a previous question, we just need to think about this very carefully going forward.
3. Questions to the Senedd Commission en
The Commission is tightly managing costs while protecting the services the Senedd needs. Through our medium-term resourcing framework, we challenge spending, cap staffing, control growth, and target resources where they matter most. Services are required to report on efficiencies each financial year and we are using better procurement, digital tools, automation and collaboration to deliver better value and reduce unnecessary costs.
3. Questions to the Senedd Commission en
Thank you. You are right that the Commission doesn't have an explicit efficiency target. However, the Commission does set its budget each year in accordance with the needs of the Senedd in full transparency and with an assessment of the resources needed to support it. We're always looking for efficiencies and ways in which we can support Members as effectively as we do now by either doing more for less or doing more with the resources that we have. And this includes, by the way, the appropriate use of AI and process redesign. In terms of where we go next, you're absolutely right; the Commissioners and I are fully focused on making sure that, in the plans for the estate that we have and going forward, costs engaged with renovation, leasing buildings et cetera are fully factored into decisions that can be brought for consideration here within the Senedd, and in full transparency. We all have an interest in making the most effective use of the money available to us, and you can rest assured that that's what we're seeking to do.
3. Questions to the Senedd Commission en
The Senedd Commission expects all Members to comply with the rules and guidance on the use of Senedd resources at all times, as required by the code of conduct. Responsibility for ensuring compliance, including the use of public-facing spaces such as office windows, rests with those individual Members and their staff.
3. Questions to the Senedd Commission en
At this point—and thank you for raising this very important issue, which applies to all Members within this Chamber—there is very clear established guidance in place on the appropriate use of Senedd resources, which I referred to earlier. The rules and guidance on the use of these resources, including offices and so on, and the code of conduct, have been provided to every single Member at the start of this seventh Senedd. Those Members are also supported through advice and clarification where needed. If any Members are in doubt that they might be straying beyond, they can come and seek some advice and clarification. It's also included, of course, in training sessions and one-to-one discussions. In terms of rule 1 in the rules and guidance on the use of Senedd resources, in terms of personal accountability, Members are personally accountable for the use of Commission resources made available to them, and must not use them for party political activity, or for any purpose other than the discharge of their duties as a Member. The point on public-facing displays has been well made; it's a timely reminder for everybody here in the building.
3. Questions to the Senedd Commission en
The Senedd Commission actively manages and reviews the performance of its staff against strategic goals, service requirements and individual objectives, at all times. We also monitor onsite attendance, as well as annual leave, flexi leave and sickness absence levels. The Commission does not, however, collate information on daily rates of working from home by its staff. Onsite attendance across the organisation is determined by business need, operational priorities and role requirements. However, there are a number of roles within the Commission, such as security, porters and front of house staff, whose work cannot be conducted anywhere but on the Senedd estate. Based on the most recent workforce analysis, these roles equate to 12 per cent of Commission staff. All other roles have the ability to work from home where this supports service delivery and management agreement.
3. Questions to the Senedd Commission en
One thing to say, as Members will shortly be very aware, is that this place will not only be operating on Tuesday and Wednesday. It has already started work on Monday and Thursday with the committees. And some poor Members are on two committees, so they will be here four days a week. The staff required to service those committees and the work they're doing will be available. If Members feel that the operational effect is affecting them, let us know. But I have to say that the feedback we have consistently is that our ways of working, where staff can work, for example, with hybrid working, or here onsite, but making themselves available to the outcomes that Members need, are very effective indeed. In terms of the sorts of roles we have, we have rota-based roles, we have hybrid arrangements, we have team-specific requirements, including those who service committees. A single measure such as saying to staff, 'You will be monitored on five days a week onsite' may not provide any meaningful insight into how effective those members of staff are. That said, we keep our data and reporting regularly under review to ensure we have the right information to support both transparency and effective management across the estate.
6. Member Debate under Standing Order 11.21(iv): Trauma and Adverse Childhood Experience (ACE) en
Diolch, Ddirprwy Lywydd. I just want to begin by thanking the Members who've brought forward and supported this debate and spoken in it. The contributions have been heartfelt and, as we've heard, informed often by personal experience, and therefore they've been quite selfless, generous and courageous too.
6. Member Debate under Standing Order 11.21(iv): Trauma and Adverse Childhood Experience (ACE) cy
Mae'r ddadl hon yn ymdrin â mater o bwys mawr—effaith trawma, yn enwedig profiadau niweidiol yn ystod plentyndod, ar unigolion ac ar y gymdeithas gyfan ledled Cymru. Wrth gydnabod y materion pwysig hyn sydd wedi cael eu gosod gan yr Aelodau, mae'n glir bod trawma'n gallu achosi canlyniadau parhaol a phellgyrhaeddol. Mae'n effeithio ar brofiadau ar hyd oes, gan ddylanwadu ar iechyd, llesiant, cydberthnasau a chyfleoedd. Mae'r dystiolaeth bod cyfran sylweddol o oedolion yng Nghymru wedi cael o leiaf un profiad niweidiol yn ystod plentyndod yn pwysleisio maint y broblem hon a phwysigrwydd ymateb cynaliadwy ar y cyd. Rwy'n siŵr, yn ôl beth yr ydym wedi'i glywed heddiw, y bydd Aelodau yn y Siambr hon sydd wedi wynebu o leiaf un yn ystod eu bywydau.
Official English translation
This debate deals with an issue of profound importance—the impact of trauma, particularly adverse childhood experiences, on individuals and society as a whole across Wales. In recognising these important matters set forward by Members, it is clear that trauma can have lasting and far-reaching consequences. It shapes experiences across the course of one's life, influencing health, well-being, relationships and opportunities. The evidence that a significant proportion of adults in Wales have experienced at least one adverse childhood experience underlines the scale of the issue and the importance of a sustained collective response. I am sure, from what we have heard today, that Members in this Chamber will have encountered at least one during the course of their lives.
6. Member Debate under Standing Order 11.21(iv): Trauma and Adverse Childhood Experience (ACE) en
The links between such experiences and poorer outcomes, as we've heard, whether in physical or mental health or in wider life chances, are well established, but complex. Yet these carry not only individual or isolated impacts, but they're matters that affect communities, public services and the resilience of our society as a whole. It is therefore welcome that action to address adverse childhood experiences has already been embedded across a range of Welsh Government policy areas. Indeed, the publication of the ACE Hub Wales's partner communications toolkit also represents a significant further step forward. It offers practical support to strengthen trauma‑informed approaches across public sector organisations. If we take these together, these points reflect both a growing awareness and an increasing commitment across Wales to respond to trauma in a more informed and a more compassionate way. Turning to the matters raised in point 6 of the motion, which relate specifically to the Senedd Commission, let me address each in turn. Firstly, on the question of developing plans to adopt trauma‑informed approaches across Senedd activities and services, the Commission firmly recognises the importance of considering how our working practices, our services and engagement can reflect an understanding of trauma. The Senedd is not only a legislative body, but it's also a public institution, and it is appropriate that we consider how our environment supports Members, staff and those who engage with us. This includes our reflections on our organisational culture, our accessibility and the way we design services and deliver those services. Secondly, on increasing awareness of the impact of trauma among Members, among Commission staff and among others engaging with the Senedd, this awareness and understanding are the essential building blocks of a trauma‑informed approach. There is clear value in ensuring that those working within and alongside the Senedd are equipped with the appropriate knowledge and guidance. This can include opportunities for learning, for training, the sharing of good practice, enabling individuals to better understand the potential impact of trauma on our behaviour, our communication and our engagement. Thirdly, on promoting the approaches that place individuals at the very centre of services, this speaks to the importance of ensuring that our communications, our processes, our physical and digital environments, are accessible and are sensitive and that they are inclusive. A trauma‑informed approach encourages us to consider how individuals experience the services that we provide, and that we seek to avoid unintended distress or retraumatisation. This aligns closely with our broader principles of dignity, respect and inclusion, which underpin the work of this very institution. In supporting this approach, the Commission recognises that being truly people centred requires us to listen and to reflect lived experience in how we work. We are increasingly doing this through our engagement with our staff networks and with representative groups, which provide valuable insight into how policies and practices are experienced in reality. By shaping our approaches in partnership with those voices, we are better able to align and design our services and environments as ones that are inclusive, that are sensitive and that are grounded in real experience, rather than working on assumption.
6. Member Debate under Standing Order 11.21(iv): Trauma and Adverse Childhood Experience (ACE) cy
Aelodau, mae'r materion sydd wedi cael eu codi gan y cynnig hwn yn tynnu sylw nid yn unig at yr heriau sy'n gysylltiedig â thrawma, ond hefyd at y cyfle a'r cyfrifoldeb sydd gan gyrff cyhoeddus i ymateb mewn modd meddylgar ac effeithiol. Bydd Comisiwn y Senedd yn parhau i fyfyrio ynghylch sut y gall ei rôl, ei gyfrifoldebau a'i wasanaethau gyfrannu at y nod hwn, a hynny mewn modd sy'n gyson â'i ddyletswyddau a'i adnoddau. Diolch yn fawr iawn.
Official English translation
Members, the matters raised in this motion highlight not only the challenges associated with trauma, but also the opportunity and the responsibility for public bodies to respond thoughtfully and effectively. The Senedd Commission will continue to reflect on how its role, responsibilities and services can contribute to this aim in a manner consistent with its duties and its resources. Thank you very much.
7. Reform UK Debate: Nation of Sanctuary en
Short interventions, please.
7. Reform UK Debate: Nation of Sanctuary cy
Rwyf wedi dethol y gwelliant i'r cynnig. Galwaf ar y Dirprwy Brif Weinidog a Gweinidog Cabinet dros Gyfiawnder Cymdeithasol a Chydraddoldeb i gynnig yn ffurfiol welliant 1, a gyflwynwyd yn enw Heledd Fychan.
Official English translation
I have selected the amendment to the motion. I call on the Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Minister for Social Justice and Equality to move formally amendment 1, tabled in the name of Heledd Fychan.
7. Reform UK Debate: Nation of Sanctuary cy
Diolch yn fawr iawn. Shav Taj.
Official English translation
Thank you very much. Shav Taj.
7. Reform UK Debate: Nation of Sanctuary en
[Inaudible.] Sorry, are you taking an intervention or not?
7. Reform UK Debate: Nation of Sanctuary en
He's not taking an intervention.
7. Reform UK Debate: Nation of Sanctuary cy
Galwaf yn awr ar y Dirprwy Brif Weinidog a'r Gweinidog Cabinet dros Gyfiawnder Cymdeithasol a Chydraddoldeb, Sioned Williams.
Official English translation
I now call on the Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Minister for Social Justice and Equality, Sioned Williams.
7. Reform UK Debate: Nation of Sanctuary cy
Galwaf ar Francesca O'Brien i ymateb i'r ddadl.
Official English translation
I call on Francesca O'Brien to reply to the debate.
7. Reform UK Debate: Nation of Sanctuary en
Francesca, sorry, I've given you a little bit more because of the intervention, but if you could move to concluding remarks.
7. Reform UK Debate: Nation of Sanctuary en
Indeed. Francesca, if you could conclude—
7. Reform UK Debate: Nation of Sanctuary en
Before I move on to putting this motion forward and to see if there are any objections, can I just thank Elfed Williams for giving me some advance notice of a point of order that you wish to raise? Elfed.
7. Reform UK Debate: Nation of Sanctuary en
Thank you very much. And thank you for the advance notice, because I've been able to reflect with my clerking team as well. You're attempting to put a factual correction. This is not a point of order. It's not a matter for me, but I will give the Member an opportunity, should he wish, to clarify his remarks in light of the point that's been made—if the Member so wishes.
7. Reform UK Debate: Nation of Sanctuary cy
Felly, y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn y cynnig heb ei ddiwygio? A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? [Gwrthwynebiad.] Gohiriaf y bleidlais o dan yr eitem hon tan y cyfnod pleidleisio.
Official English translation
So, the proposal is to agree the motion without amendment. Does any Member object? [Objection.] I will defer voting under this item until voting time.
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Rydyn ni'n symud nawr i eitem 8, dadl Llafur Cymru ar gyllid ar gyfer anghenion dysgu ychwanegol yn y gyllideb atodol gyntaf ar gyfer 2026-27. Galwaf ar Lynne Neagle i wneud y cynnig.
Official English translation
We will move now to item 8, the Welsh Labour debate on funding for additional learning needs in the first supplementary budget for 2026-27. I call on Lynne Neagle to move the motion.
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Open this sitting on the stage
1. Questions to the First Minister en
Prynhawn da. Good afternoon, everybody.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Croeso nôl. Rydyn ni'n dechrau nawr gyda chwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog. Yn gyntaf, cwestiwn 1, Francesca O'Brien.
Official English translation
Welcome back. We will begin this afternoon with questions to the First Minister. The first question is from Francesca O'Brien.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Galwaf yn awr ar arweinwyr y pleidiau i holi'r Prif Weinidog. Yn gyntaf, arweinydd Reform UK, Dan Thomas.
Official English translation
I now call on the party leaders to question the First Minister. First of all, the leader of Reform UK, Dan Thomas.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Arweinydd Llafur Cymru, Ken Skates.
Official English translation
The leader of Welsh Labour, Ken Skates.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Arweinydd y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig, Darren Millar.
Official English translation
The leader of the Welsh Conservatives, Darren Millar.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Mae cwestiynau 3 ac 8 wedi eu grwpio. Yn gyntaf, cwestiwn 3, Laura Anne Jones.
Official English translation
Questions 3 and 8 are grouped. First, question 3, Laura Anne Jones.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Cwestiwn 7, Anna Nicholl.
Official English translation
Question 7, Anna Nicholl.
1. Questions to the First Minister en
Would you like to place the initial question, please?
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Brif Weinidog, help.
Official English translation
Prif Weinidog, help.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Diolch yn fawr iawn. Prif Weinidog.
Official English translation
Thank you very much. First Minister.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Diolch, Brif Weinidog.
Official English translation
Thank you very much, First Minister.
3. Business Statement and Announcement cy
Nawr, eitem 3, datganiad a chyhoeddiad busnes. Galwaf ar y Trefnydd, Heledd Fychan.
Official English translation
Item 3 is the business statement and announcement. I call on the Trefnydd, Heledd Fychan.
3. Business Statement and Announcement cy
Yn olaf, Jason O'Connell.
Official English translation
Finally, Jason O'Connell.
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1. Questions to the Trefnydd, Chief Whip and Cabinet Minister for Culture and Sport cy
Prynhawn da, bawb. Croeso nôl.
Official English translation
Good afternoon, all. Welcome back.
1. Questions to the Trefnydd, Chief Whip and Cabinet Minister for Culture and Sport en
We will begin with item 1.
1. Questions to the Trefnydd, Chief Whip and Cabinet Minister for Culture and Sport cy
Cwestiynau i'r Trefnydd, Prif Chwip a Gweinidog Cabinet dros Ddiwylliant a Chwaraeon. Cwestiwn 1, Cristiana Emsley.
Official English translation
Questions to the Trefnydd, Chief Whip and Cabinet Minister for Culture and Sport. Question 1, Cristiana Emsley.
1. Questions to the Trefnydd, Chief Whip and Cabinet Minister for Culture and Sport cy
Diolch. Galwaf yn awr ar y lefarwyr y pleidiau i holi'r Gweinidog Cabinet. Yn gyntaf, llefarydd Reform UK, James Evans.
Official English translation
Thank you. I now call on the party spokespeople to question the Cabinet Minister. First of all, the Reform UK spokesperson James Evans.
1. Questions to the Trefnydd, Chief Whip and Cabinet Minister for Culture and Sport cy
Llefarydd Llafur Cymru, Mike Hedges.
Official English translation
Welsh Labour spokesperson, Mike Hedges.
1. Questions to the Trefnydd, Chief Whip and Cabinet Minister for Culture and Sport cy
Llefarydd y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig, Paul Davies.
Official English translation
Welsh Conservative spokesperson, Paul Davies.
1. Questions to the Trefnydd, Chief Whip and Cabinet Minister for Culture and Sport cy
Ac yn olaf, cwestiwn 7, Carmelo Colasanto.
Official English translation
And finally, question 7, Carmelo Colasanto.
1. Questions to the Trefnydd, Chief Whip and Cabinet Minister for Culture and Sport cy
Diolch, Weinidog Cabinet.
Official English translation
Thank you, Cabinet Minister.
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Finance cy
Rydyn ni'n dod nawr i eitem 2, cwestiynau i'r Gweinidog Cabinet dros Gyllid. Ond, cyn i mi alw'r cwestiwn cyntaf, galwaf ar y Gweinidog Cabinet i wneud datganiad byr.
Official English translation
We move now to item 2, questions to the Cabinet Minister for Finance. But, before I call the first question, I call on the Cabinet Minister to make a short statement.
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Finance cy
Diolch, Weinidog Cabinet. Nawr, rŷn ni'n symud i gwestiwn 1—Marc Jones.
Official English translation
Thank you, Cabinet Minister. We move to question 1—Marc Jones.
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Finance cy
Galwaf yn awr ar lefarwyr y pleidiau i holi'r Gweinidog Cabinet, ac yn gyntaf llefarydd Reform UK, Cai Parry-Jones.
Official English translation
I now call on the party spokespeople to question the Cabinet Minister, and first of all Reform UK spokesperson, Cai Parry-Jones.
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Finance cy
Llefarydd Llafur Cymru, Huw Thomas.
Official English translation
Welsh Labour spokesperson, Huw Thomas.
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Finance cy
Llefarydd y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig, Sam Rowlands.
Official English translation
Welsh Conservatives' spokesperson, Sam Rowlands.
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Finance cy
Ac yn olaf, gyda thipyn bach o injury time ar ôl y datganiad byr—
Official English translation
And finally, with a little injury time following the short statement—
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Finance cy
Na, na. Cwestiwn 9, Zaynub Akbar.
Official English translation
No, no. Question 9, Zaynub Akbar.
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Finance cy
Diolch, Weinidog Cabinet.
Official English translation
Thank you, Cabinet Minister.
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Cwestiwn amserol nawr, o dan eitem 3. Ken Skates.
Official English translation
We now have a topical question under item 3. Ken Skates.
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Diolch, Ddirprwy Weinidog.
Official English translation
Thank you, Deputy Minister.
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Felly, nawr mae eitem 4, y datganiadau 90 eiliad. Yn gyntaf, Gareth Thomas.
Official English translation
So, we will now move to item 4, the 90-second statements. And the first is from Gareth Thomas.
6. Welsh Conservatives Debate: Hospital services and hospital closures cy
Rwyf wedi dethol y pedwar gwelliant i'r cynnig. Os derbynnir gwelliant 1, caiff gwelliant 2 ei ddad-ddethol. Galwaf ar y Gweinidog Cabinet dros Iechyd a Gofal i gynnig yn ffurfiol welliant 1, a gyflwynwyd yn enw Heledd Fychan.
Official English translation
I have selected the four amendments to the motion. If amendment 1 is agreed, amendment 2 will be deselected. I call on the Cabinet Minister for Health and Care to formally move amendment 1, tabled in the name of Heledd Fychan.
6. Welsh Conservatives Debate: Hospital services and hospital closures cy
Diolch yn fawr iawn. Galwaf yn awr ar Ken Skates i gynnig gwelliannau 2 a 4, a gyflwynwyd yn enw Lynne Neagle.
Official English translation
Thank you. I now call on Ken Skates to move amendments 2 and 4, tabled in the name of Lynne Neagle.
6. Welsh Conservatives Debate: Hospital services and hospital closures cy
Galwaf yn awr ar James Evans i gynnig gwelliant 3, a gyflwynwyd yn enw Llŷr Powell.
Official English translation
I now call on James Evans to move amendment 3, tabled in the name of Llŷr Powell.
6. Welsh Conservatives Debate: Hospital services and hospital closures cy
Galwaf ar y Gweinidog Cabinet dros Iechyd a Gofal, Mabon ap Gwynfor.
Official English translation
I call on the Cabinet Minister for Health and Care, Mabon ap Gwynfor.
6. Welsh Conservatives Debate: Hospital services and hospital closures cy
Galwaf ar Darren Millar i ymateb i'r ddadl.
Official English translation
I call on Darren Miller to reply to the debate.
6. Welsh Conservatives Debate: Hospital services and hospital closures en
There's not a lot more time, I'm afraid, Darren.
6. Welsh Conservatives Debate: Hospital services and hospital closures cy
Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn y cynnig heb ei ddiwygio? A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? [Gwrthwynebiad.] Gwrthwynebiad. Gohiriaf y bleidlais o dan yr eitem hon tan y cyfnod pleidleisio.
Official English translation
The proposal is to agree the motion without amendment. Does any Member object? [Objection.] There is an objection. I will defer voting under this item until voting time.
7. Reform UK Debate: A Welsh Rivers Act cy
Nawr rydyn ni'n symud i eitem 7, dadl Reform UK: Deddf afonydd i Gymru. Galwaf ar Laura Anne Jones i wneud y cynnig.
Official English translation
We now move to item 7, the Reform UK debate: a Welsh rivers Act. I call on Laura Anne Jones to move the motion.
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Prynhawn da, bawb.
Official English translation
Good afternoon, everybody.
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Good afternoon, everybody. Before we commence this afternoon's proceedings, I've been approached in the chair and asked whether it is acceptable to remove your jackets in the Chamber. So, bearing in mind the weather we are in, can I say, 'Yes, it is perfectly acceptable to remove your jackets'? Thank you. So, that is my ruling. [Interruption.] Keep away from it.
Statement by the First Minister cy
Nawr, rydym ni'n dechrau gyda datganiad y Prif Weinidog: rhybudd tywydd coch.
Official English translation
We will start with the First Minister's statement: red weather warning.
Statement by the First Minister en
Diolch, Brif Weinidog. That message will have been heard by Members as well. Diolch yn fawr iawn.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Rydym ni'n symud ymlaen nawr i eitem 1, cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog, ac mae'r cwestiwn cyntaf, cwestiwn 1, gan John Davies.
Official English translation
We will move on now to item 1, questions to the First Minister, and the first question is from John Davies.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Galwaf nawr ar arweinwyr y pleidiau i holi'r Prif Weinidog. Yn gyntaf, galwaf ar Dan Thomas, arweinydd Reform UK.
Official English translation
I now call on the party leaders to question the First Minister. First of all, I call Dan Thomas, leader of Reform UK.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Arweinydd Llafur Cymru, Ken Skates.
Official English translation
The leader of Welsh Labour, Ken Skates.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Arweinydd y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig, Darren Millar.
Official English translation
The leader of the Welsh Conservatives, Darren Millar.
1. Questions to the First Minister en
Let's hear the answer.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Ac yn olaf, cwestiwn 10, Kiera Marshall.
Official English translation
And finally, question 10, Kiera Marshall.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Diolch, Brif Weinidog.
Official English translation
Thank you, First Minister.
2. Business Statement and Announcement cy
Eitem 2 nawr, datganiad a chyhoeddiad busnes. Galwaf ar y Trefnydd, Heledd Fychan.
Official English translation
Item 2 is next, the business statement and announcement. I call on the Trefnydd, Heledd Fychan.
2. Business Statement and Announcement cy
Ac yn olaf, Drefnydd, Laura Anne Jones.
Official English translation
And finally, Trefnydd, Laura Anne Jones.
5. Statement by the Cabinet Minister for Finance: The First Supplementary Budget 2026-27 cy
Diolch yn fawr iawn, Weinidog Cabinet dros Gyllid.
Official English translation
Thank you very much, Cabinet Minister for Finance.
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Rydyn ni'n symud nawr i eitem 6, datganiad gan y Gweinidog Cabinet dros Iechyd a Gofal: cyflawni ein blaenoriaethau—lleihau amseroedd aros a chryfhau gofal sylfaenol. Galwaf ar y Gweinidog Cabinet dros Iechyd a Gofal, Mabon ap Gwynfor.
Official English translation
We now move to item 6, a statement by the Cabinet Minister for Health and Care: delivering on our priorities—reducing waiting times and strengthening primary care. I call on the Cabinet Minister for Health and Care, Mabon ap Gwynfor.
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Diolch. Mae gennym bum Aelod arall sydd eisiau siarad. Rwy'n credu y gall pob un o'r Aelodau hynny gael eu cyfle, gydag ychydig o lwc. Felly, yn gyntaf, Gwyn Williams.
Official English translation
Thank you. We have five other Members who wish to contribute. I think all of those Members may have an opportunity, with a little luck on our side. So, first of all, Gwyn Williams.
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Ac yn olaf, Gareth Thomas.
Official English translation
And finally, Gareth Thomas.
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Diolch yn fawr iawn, Weinidog Cabinet.
Official English translation
Thank you very much, Cabinet Minister.
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We move now to the motions to elect Members to committees. Now, unless there are any objections, in accordance with Standing Order 12.24, I propose that the motions to elect Members to committees are grouped for debate. Are there any objections? No objections.
7. Motions to elect Members to committees en
I therefore call on a member of the Business Committee to move the motions formally. Paul Davies.
7. Motions to elect Members to committees en
Diolch yn fawr iawn. And in accordance with Standing Order 12 point—sorry. In accordance with Standing Order 12.40, I propose that the motions to elect Members to committees are also grouped for voting. Does any Member object? Thank you, I see there are no objections. So, felly, the proposal is to agree the motions. Does any Member object? The motions are therefore agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.
7. Motions to elect Members to committees cy
Diolch yn fawr iawn, Aelodau.
Official English translation
Thank you very much, Members.
7. Motions to elect Members to committees en
That brings today's proceedings to a close.
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Prynhawn da, bawb.
Official English translation
Good afternoon, everyone.
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Before we begin today's meeting, I want to briefly refer to yesterday's proceedings. During First Minister's questions, there was an exchange on which I have since received correspondence and which has also received media coverage. Scrutiny of the Government, including the questioning of Ministers, is an important part of our Senedd. It is essential that this is conducted in accordance with our rules and the established expectations for contributions in this Chamber. Members indeed have received training and guidance on those expectations. We will, of course, hold differing views and that was evident yesterday in both the remarks made and the responses in the Chamber. Robust disagreement is part of democratic debate, but it must always be grounded in respect and we must avoid using language that has the potential to inflame debate or to increase tensions. So, I expect, as Llywydd, that Members at all times conduct themselves in a way that promotes respect for this Senedd and that extends respect and courtesy to all other Members and to everyone in our society. So, my appeal to Members, my direction to Members is: respect our rules, treat one another with kindness and with courtesy and with respect.
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Gadewch i ni fynd ymlaen nawr. Mae llawer o fusnes i'w wneud heddiw.
Official English translation
Now, let us move one. We have a great deal of business to cover today.
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Health and Care cy
Nawr, eitem 2, cwestiynau i'r Gweinidog Cabinet dros Iechyd a Gofal. Cwestiwn 1—David Mills.
Official English translation
Now, item 2, questions to the Cabinet Minister for Health and Care. And the first question is from David Mills.
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Health and Care cy
Cwestiynau nawr i'r llefarwyr. Galwaf yn awr ar lefarwyr y pleidiau i holi'r Gweinidog Cabinet. Yn gyntaf, llefarydd Reform UK i ofyn i'r Dirprwy Weinidog dros Ofal Cymdeithasol, Iechyd Meddwl ac Iechyd Menywod. Claire Archibald.
Official English translation
Questions now from the party spokespeople. I call now on the party spokespeople to question the Cabinet Minister. First, the Reform UK spokesperson to ask the Deputy Minister for Social Care, Mental Health and Women's Health. Claire Archibald.
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Health and Care cy
Llefarydd Llafur Cymru, Ken Skates.
Official English translation
Welsh Labour spokesperson, Ken Skates.
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Health and Care cy
Llefarydd y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig, Peter Fox.
Official English translation
Welsh Conservatives' spokesperson, Peter Fox.
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Health and Care cy
Ac yn olaf, Weinidog Cabinet, cwestiwn 8 i'w ateb gan y Dirprwy Weinidog. Jayne Bryant.
Official English translation
And finally, Cabinet Minister, question 8 to be answered by the Deputy Minister. Jayne Bryant.
6. Reform UK Debate: Government international spending cy
Ac yn awr, rydyn ni'n symud i eitem 6, dadl Reform UK, gwariant rhyngwladol y Llywodraeth. Galwaf ar Cai Parry-Jones i wneud y cynnig.
Official English translation
We now move to item 6, the Reform UK debate on Government international spending. I call on Cai Parry-Jones to move the motion.
6. Reform UK Debate: Government international spending cy
Rwyf wedi dethol y gwelliannau i'r cynnig. Os derbynnir gwelliant 1, caiff gwelliant 2 ei ddad-ddethol. Galwaf ar y Gweinidog Cabinet dros Effeithiolrwydd Llywodraeth a’r Cyfansoddiad i gynnig yn ffurfiol welliant 1, a gyflwynwyd yn enw Heledd Fychan—yn ffurfiol.
Official English translation
I have selected the amendments to the motion. If amendment 1 is agreed, amendment 2 will be deselected. I call on the Cabinet Minister for Government Effectiveness and the Constitution to move formally amendment 1, tabled in the name of Heledd Fychan— formally.
6. Reform UK Debate: Government international spending cy
Diolch yn fawr iawn. Galwaf nawr ar Huw Thomas i gynnig gwelliant 2, a gyflwynwyd yn enw Lynne Neagle.
Official English translation
Thank you very much. I call now on Huw Thomas to move amendment 2, tabled in the name of Lynne Neagle.
6. Reform UK Debate: Government international spending en
Are you seeking to make an intervention?
6. Reform UK Debate: Government international spending en
Just to clarify, I know we're all getting used to the Chamber, but you need to make an intervention during the contribution; you can't accept the intervention at the end. But we're all learning; don't worry. Diolch, Iain. No intervention possible now, I'm afraid. Anna Nicholl.
6. Reform UK Debate: Government international spending en
[Inaudible.]—to be careful in terms of the way we conduct debates and respect for other Members and the language being used. So, I simply remind you, you may not have been in the Chamber earlier on, but if I could advise you accordingly, please.
6. Reform UK Debate: Government international spending cy
Galwaf nawr ar y Gweinidog Cabinet dros Effeithiolrwydd Llywodraeth a’r Cyfansoddiad, Dafydd Trystan Davies.
Official English translation
I now call on the Cabinet Minister for Government Effectiveness and the Constitution, Dafydd Trystan Davies.
6. Reform UK Debate: Government international spending cy
Galwaf ar Jason O'Connell i ymateb i'r ddadl.
Official English translation
I call on Jason O'Connell to reply to the debate.
6. Reform UK Debate: Government international spending en
Diolch. Before I move to putting the motion here, I just want to reflect on the debate that we’ve just had and the remarks I made earlier this afternoon in opening, and I ask all Members to pay attention to my repeating a short extract from what I said. Robust disagreement is part of democratic debate, but it must always be grounded in respect, and we must avoid using language that has the potential to inflame debate and to increase tensions. I expect Members at all times—all times—to conduct themselves in a way that promotes respect for the Senedd and extends respect and courtesy to other Members and to everyone in our society. I’ve read those remarks twice now into the record today, for very good reason. I realise we are in early weeks of this Chamber, and I want this Chamber to succeed in line with my remarks and with that guidance. Joe, I would like you to reflect, please, on the remarks and your contribution today. It was not in line with my expectations. Going forward, I think we all need to reflect on this and make sure that we comply with our conduct within this Chamber and the way we comport ourselves in light of my remarks. It’s particularly disappointing, as I made those remarks for a very good purpose earlier this afternoon. We can have robust disagreement, but with respect for each other and respect for others out there in wider society.
6. Reform UK Debate: Government international spending cy
Felly, y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn y cynnig heb ei ddiwygio? A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? [Gwrthwynebiad.] Gwrthwynebu. Gohiriaf y bleidlais o dan yr eitem hon tan y cyfnod pleidleisio.
Official English translation
So, the proposal is to agreed the motion without amendment. Does any Member object? [Objection.] Yes, there is objection. I will defer voting under this item until voting time.
7. Reform UK Debate: Statutory register for lobbyists cy
Rydyn ni'n symud yn awr i'r eitem nesaf, eitem 7, dadl Reform UK, cofrestr statudol ar gyfer lobïwyr. Galwaf ar Francesca O'Brien i wneud y cynnig.
Official English translation
We move on now to the next item, item 7, the Reform UK debate on statutory legislature for lobbyists. I call on Francesca O’Brien to move the motion.
7. Reform UK Debate: Statutory register for lobbyists cy
Oni bai fod pum Aelod yn dymuno imi ganu’r gloch, symudaf yn syth i’r cyfnod pleidleisio.
Official English translation
Unless five Members wish for the bell to be rung, I will move immediately to voting time.
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Rydyn ni'n symud i'r cyfnod pleidleisio. Eitem 6 yn gyntaf. Galwaf am bleidlais ar y cynnig, a gyflwynwyd yn enw Llŷr Powell. Os gwrthodir y cynnig, byddwn yn pleidleisio ar y gwelliannau a gyflwynwyd i'r cynnig. Agorwch y bleidlais. Caewch y bleidlais. O blaid 37, yn ymatal dim, yn erbyn 48.
Official English translation
We will move to voting time. Item 6 first. I call for a vote on the motion, tabled in the name of Llŷr Powell. If the motion is not agreed, we will vote on the amendments tabled to the motion. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 37, no abstentions, 48 against.
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Rydyn ni'n symud nawr i amendment 1. Galwaf am bleidlais ar welliant 1, a gyflwynwyd yn enw Heledd Fychan. Os derbynnir gwelliant 1, bydd gwelliant 2 yn cael ei ddad-ddethol. Agorwch y bleidlais. Caewch y bleidlais. O blaid 49, yn ymatal dim, yn erbyn 36.
Official English translation
We will now move to amendment 1. I call for a vote on amendment 1, tabled in the name of Heledd Fychan. If amendment 1 is agreed, amendment 2 will be deselected. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 49, no abstentions, 36 against.
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Galwaf nawr am bleidlais ar y cynnig wedi'i ddiwygio.
Official English translation
I call for a vote on the motion as amended.
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Agorwch y bleidlais. Caewch y bleidlais. O blaid 48, yn ymatal dim, yn erbyn 37. Mae'r cynnig wedi'i ddiwygio wedi ei dderbyn.
Official English translation
Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 48, no abstentions, 37 against. The motion as amended is agreed.
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Rŷn ni'n symud nawr i eitem 7, cofrestr statudol ar gyfer lobïwyr. Galwaf am bleidlais ar y cynnig, a gyflwynwyd yn enw Llŷr Powell. Os gwrthodir y cynnig, byddwn yn pleidleisio ar y gwelliannau a gyflwynwyd i'r cynnig. Agorwch y bleidlais. Caewch y bleidlais. O blaid 77, yn ymatal dim, yn erbyn wyth. Mae'r cynnig wedi ei dderbyn.
Official English translation
We now move to item 7, a statutory register for lobbyists. I call for a vote on the motion, tabled in the name of Llŷr Powell. If the proposal is not agreed, we will vote on the amendment tabled to the motion. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 77, no abstentions, eight against. The motion is therefore agreed.
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Nawr rydw i'n gallu dweud beth yw canlyniad y bleidlais gudd y prynhawn yma.
Official English translation
Now I can declare the result of this afternoon's secret ballot.
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I can reveal the results of the votes for the Chairs from earlier this afternoon. I'll do them in order of the committees that we were voting on.
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Canlyniad y bleidlais gudd ar gyfer Cadeirydd Pwyllgor y Blynyddoedd Cynnar, Plant, Pobl Ifanc ac Addysg. Byddaf i'n dweud yr enwebai a byddaf i'n dweud nifer y pleidleisiau. Beca Brown 40, Sera Evans 42, ymatal eu pleidleisiau saith, pleidleisiau wedi eu difetha dim, cyfanswm 89. Rwyf felly'n datgan bod Sera Evans wedi ei hethol yn Gadeirydd Pwyllgor y Blynyddoedd Cynnar, Plant, Pobl Ifanc ac Addysg. Canlyniad y bleidlais gudd ar gyfer Cadeirydd y Pwyllgor Cydraddoldeb, Hawliau Dynol a Chyfiawnder Cymdeithasol, rownd 1 a rownd 2. Rownd 1: Sarah Rees 32, Zaynub Akbar 33, Elfed Williams 21, ymatal eu pleidleisiau tri, cyfanswm 89. Gan na chafodd yr un ymgeisydd fwyafrif o'r pleidleisiau dewis cyntaf, cafodd yr ymgeisydd a gafodd y nifer lleiaf o bleidleisiau dewis cyntaf, Elfed Williams, ei hepgor, a chafodd ei bleidleisiau eu hailddosbarthu rhwng yr ymgeiswyr a oedd yn weddill, yn nhrefn blaenoriaeth. Felly, y canlyniad terfynol yw, yn rownd 2: Sarah Rees 37, Zaynub Akbar, 41. Rwyf felly'n datgan bod Zaynub Akbar wedi ei hethol yn Gadeirydd y Pwyllgor Cydraddoldeb, Hawliau Dynol a Chyfiawnder Cymdeithasol. Canlyniad y bleidlais gudd ar gyfer Cadeirydd Pwyllgor yr Economi, Ynni a Chysylltedd: Anna Nicholl 40, Elwyn Vaughan 41, ymatal eu pleidleisiau saith, cyfanswm 88. Rwyf felly'n datgan bod Elwyn Vaughan wedi ei ethol yn Gadeirydd Pwyllgor yr Economi, Ynni a Chysylltedd. Ac yn olaf, canlyniad y bleidlais gudd ar gyfer Cadeirydd y Pwyllgor Safonau Ymddygiad: Alun Cox 30, Lindsay Whittle 48, Elyn Stephens 10, cyfanswm 88. Gan ei fod wedi cael mwyafrif o'r pleidleisiau dewis cyntaf, rwy'n datgan bod Lindsay Whittle wedi ei ethol yn Gadeirydd y Pwyllgor Safonau Ymddygiad. Llongyfarchiadau i chi i gyd.
Official English translation
The result of the secret ballot for Chair of Early Years, Children, Young People and Education Committee is as follows. I will name the nominee and the number of votes. Beca Brown 40, Sera Evans 42, abstentions seven, spoilt ballots zero, the total number of votes cast 89. I therefore declare that Sera Evans is elected as Chair of the Early Years, Children, Young People and Education Committee. The result of the secret ballot for Chair of the Equality, Human Rights and Social Justice Committee, rounds 1 and 2. Round 1: Sarah Rees 32, Zaynub Akbar 33, Elfed Williams 21, abstentions three, the total number of votes 89. As no single candidate received a majority of the first-preference votes, the candidate with the fewest number of first-preference votes, Elfed Williams, was excluded and the second-preference votes were transferred to the remaining candidates. So, the final result is as follows, in round 2: Sarah Rees 37, Zaynub Akbar 41. I therefore declare that Zaynub Akbar is elected as Chair of the Equality, Human Rights and Social Justice Committee. The result of the secret ballot for the Chair of the Economy, Energy and Connectivity Committee: Anna Nicholl 40, Elwyn Vaughan 41, abstentions seven, the total 88. I therefore declare that Elwyn Vaughan is elected as Chair of the Economy, Energy and Connectivity Committee. And finally, the result of the secret ballot for the Chair of the Standards of Conduct Committee: Alun Cox 30, Lindsay Whittle 48, Elyn Stephens 10, the total number of votes 88. As he has received a majority of first-preference votes, I therefore declare that Lindsay Whittle is elected as Chair of the Standards of Conduct Committee. Congratulations to you all.
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And everybody who put their names forward as well. Well done. Very good indeed.
9. Short Debate: Ensuring access to Welsh language education on the border between Powys and England cy
Nesaf, fe gawn ni ddadl fer. Elwyn Vaughan i gyflwyno'r ddadl fer.
Official English translation
We will move now to the short debate. I call on Elwyn Vaughan.
9. Short Debate: Ensuring access to Welsh language education on the border between Powys and England cy
Galwaf ar y Gweinidog Cabinet dros Addysg a’r Gymraeg i ymateb i'r ddadl—Anna Brychan.
Official English translation
I call on the Cabinet Minister for Education and the Welsh Language to reply to the debate—Anna Brychan.
9. Short Debate: Ensuring access to Welsh language education on the border between Powys and England cy
Diolch i Elwyn Vaughan, a diolch hefyd i'r Gweinidog Cabinet. Daw hynny â thrafodion heddiw i ben.
Official English translation
Thank you, Elwyn Vaughan, and thank you, Cabinet Minister. That brings today's proceedings to a close.
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1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Prynhawn da, bawb. Croeso i chi i gyd. Cwestiynau nawr i'r Prif Weinidog. Cwestiwn 1, Lynne Neagle.
Official English translation
Good afternoon and welcome to you all. We'll move now to questions to the First Minister. The first question is from Lynne Neagle.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Galwaf yn awr ar arweinwyr y pleidiau i holi'r Prif Weinidog. Yn gyntaf, arweinydd Reform UK, Dan Thomas.
Official English translation
I now call on the party leaders to question the First Minister. First, the leader of Reform UK, Dan Thomas.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Arweinydd Llafur Cymru, Ken Skates.
Official English translation
Leader of Welsh Labour, Ken Skates.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Arweinydd y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig, Darren Millar.
Official English translation
Leader of the Welsh Conservatives, Darren Millar.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Ac yn olaf ar y cwestiwn hwn, Anthony Slaughter.
Official English translation
And finally on this question, Anthony Slaughter.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Ac yn olaf, Brif Weinidog, cwestiwn 10, Cristiana Emsley.
Official English translation
And finally, First Minister, question 10, Cristiana Emsley.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Diolch, Brif Weinidog.
Official English translation
Thank you, First Minister.
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Government Effectiveness and the Constitution cy
Cwestiynau nawr i'r Gweinidog Cabinet dros Effeithiolrwydd Llywodraeth a'r Cyfansoddiad. Cwestiwn 1, Niamh Salkeld.
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Government Effectiveness and the Constitution cy
Galwaf yn awr ar lefarwyr y pleidiau i holi'r Gweinidog Cabinet. Yn gyntaf, llefarydd Reform UK, Adrian Mason.
Official English translation
I now call on the party spokespeople to question the Cabinet Minister. First of all, Reform UK spokesperson, Adrian Mason.
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Government Effectiveness and the Constitution cy
Llefarydd Llafur Cymru nawr, Huw Thomas.
Official English translation
The Welsh Labour spokesperson, Huw Thomas.
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Government Effectiveness and the Constitution cy
Llefarydd y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig, Sam Rowlands.
Official English translation
The Welsh Conservatives' spokesperson, Sam Rowlands.
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Government Effectiveness and the Constitution cy
Cwestiwn 4, Catherine Cullen.
Official English translation
Question 4, Catherine Cullen.
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Government Effectiveness and the Constitution cy
Cwestiwn 5, Cristiana Emsley.
Official English translation
Question 5, Cristiana Emsley.
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Government Effectiveness and the Constitution cy
Ac yn olaf, Weinidog Cabinet, cwestiwn 8, Carrie Harper.
Official English translation
And finally, Cabinet Minister, question 8, Carrie Harper.
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Matthew Jones.
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Okay. [Laughter.] I'm happy if you don't want to.
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Eisteddwch i lawr—eisteddwch i lawr.
Official English translation
No, sit down.
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Matthew, if you want to pass up the opportunity—. Your name was down, but no, that's fine, don't worry. Steven Rodaway.
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Ac yn olaf, Weinidog Cabinet, Beca Brown.
Official English translation
And finally, Cabinet Minister, Beca Brown.
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Diolch, Weinidog Cabinet. Diolch, bawb, hefyd. Does dim cyfnod pleidleisio heddiw, felly daw hynny â thrafodion heddiw i ben. Diolch yn fawr.
Official English translation
Thank you, Cabinet Minister. Thank you, everybody. There is no voting time today, and therefore that brings today's proceedings to a close. Thank you very much.
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1. Questions to the Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Minister for Social Justice and Equality cy
Prynhawn da. Rydym yn agor y prynhawn yma gyda'r cwestiynau i'r Dirprwy Brif Weinidog a Gweinidog Cabinet dros Gyfiawnder Cymdeithasol a Chydraddoldeb, Sioned Williams. Cwestiwn 1, Catherine Cullen.
Official English translation
Good afternoon. We will begin this afternoon with questions to the Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Minister for Social Justice and Equality, Sioned Williams. Question 1, Catherine Cullen.
1. Questions to the Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Minister for Social Justice and Equality cy
Rydyn ni'n symud ymlaen. Yn nesaf, cwestiynau llefarwyr—. O, na, mae'n flin gen i—Natasha Asghar.
Official English translation
We will now move on. Next, spokespeople questions—. Oh, no, I apologise—Natasha Asghar.
1. Questions to the Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Minister for Social Justice and Equality cy
Galwaf ar lefarwyr y pleidiau i holi'r Gweinidog Cabinet. Yn gyntaf, llefarydd Reform UK, Cristiana Emsley.
Official English translation
I now call the party spokespeople to question the Cabinet Minister. First of all, the Reform UK spokesperson, Cristiana Emsley.
1. Questions to the Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Minister for Social Justice and Equality cy
Llefarydd Llafur Cymru, Shav Taj.
Official English translation
Welsh Labour spokesperson, Shav Taj.
1. Questions to the Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Minister for Social Justice and Equality cy
Llefarydd y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig, Peter Fox.
Official English translation
Welsh Conservative spokesperson, Peter Fox.
1. Questions to the Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Minister for Social Justice and Equality cy
Cwestiwn 5, Sara Crowley.
Official English translation
Question 5, Sara Crowley.
1. Questions to the Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Minister for Social Justice and Equality en
Cabinet Minister, you've answered at great length, which is admirable in many ways.
1. Questions to the Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Minister for Social Justice and Equality cy
Ond mae'n rhaid i ni symud ymlaen nawr yn fwy cyflym. Gadewch i ni geisio cael dau gwestiwn arall yn gyflym. Cwestiwn 6 [OQ64121]—trosglwyddwyd i'w ateb gan y Dirprwy Weinidog dros Ofal Cymdeithasol, Iechyd Meddwl ac Iechyd Menywod. Felly, cwestiwn 7—Paul Davies.
Official English translation
But we do have to start making progress now, so if you could be more brief. Let's try and get another two questions in quickly. Question 6 [OQ64121] has been transferred for written answer by the Deputy Minister for Social Care, Mental Health and Women's Health. So, we'll move to question 7—Paul Davies.
1. Questions to the Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Minister for Social Justice and Equality cy
Ac yn olaf, cwestiwn 8—Leticia Gonzalez.
Official English translation
And finally, question 8—Leticia Gonzalez.
1. Questions to the Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Minister for Social Justice and Equality cy
Diolch, Weinidog Cabinet.
Official English translation
I thank the Cabinet Minister.
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Rural Resilience and Sustainability cy
Eitem 2, cwestiynau nawr i'r Gweinidog Cabinet dros Wydnwch Gwledig a Chynaliadwyedd. Cwestiwn 1—Ken Skates.
Official English translation
Item 2, questions now to the Cabinet Minister for Rural Resilience and Sustainability. Question 1—Ken Skates.
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Rural Resilience and Sustainability cy
Diolch yn fawr iawn. Cwestiwn 2—Art Wright.
Official English translation
Thank you very much. Question 2—Art Wright.
2. Questions to the Cabinet Minister for Rural Resilience and Sustainability cy
Galwaf yn awr ar lefarwyr y pleidiau i holi'r Gweinidog Cabinet. Yn gyntaf, llefarydd Reform UK, Laura Anne Jones.
Official English translation
I now call on the party spokespeople to question the Cabinet Minister. First of all, Reform UK spokesperson, Laura Anne Jones.
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Diolch, Weinidog Cabinet.
Official English translation
I thank the Cabinet Minister.
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Rydyn ni'n symud nawr i'r datganiadau 90 eiliad. Mike Hedges.
Official English translation
We move on now to the 90-second statements. Mike Hedges.
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Diolch, Mike. Jane Dodds.
Official English translation
Thank you, Mike. Jane Dodds.
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Diolch.
Official English translation
Thank you.
5. Reform UK Debate: Childcare offer cy
Ac yn awr, dadl Reform UK: cynnig gofal plant. Galwaf ar Dan Thomas i wneud y cynnig.
Official English translation
And now the Reform UK debate on the childcare offer. I call on Dan Thomas to move the motion.
5. Reform UK Debate: Childcare offer cy
Diolch yn fawr. Rwyf wedi dethol y gwelliannau i'r cynnig. Galwaf ar y Dirprwy Brif Weinidog a'r Gweinidog Cabinet dros Gyfiawnder Cymdeithasol a Chydraddoldeb i gynnig yn ffurfiol welliant 1, a gyflwynwyd yn enw Heledd Fychan.
Official English translation
Thank you. I have selected the amendments to the motion. I call on the Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Minister for Social Justice and Equality to move formally amendment 1, tabled in the name of Heledd Fychan.
5. Reform UK Debate: Childcare offer cy
Diolch yn fawr iawn. Nawr, galwaf ar Lynne Neagle i gynnig gwelliant 2, a gyflwynwyd yn ei henw ei hun.
Official English translation
Thank you very much. I now call on Lynne Neagle to move amendment 2, tabled in her own name.
5. Reform UK Debate: Childcare offer en
Elyn, sorry, just to clarify, an intervention is for a Member to ask a question of the Member. But I know we're all learning as we get to grips with this.
5. Reform UK Debate: Childcare offer cy
Galwaf nawr ar y Dirprwy Brif Weinidog a Gweinidog Cabinet dros Gyfiawnder Cymdeithasol a Chydraddoldeb, Sioned Williams.
Official English translation
I now call on the Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Minister for Social Justice and Equality, Sioned Williams.
5. Reform UK Debate: Childcare offer cy
Galwaf ar Llŷr Powell i ymateb i'r ddadl.
Official English translation
I call on Llŷr Powell to reply to the debate.
5. Reform UK Debate: Childcare offer cy
Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn y cynnig heb ei ddiwygio? A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? [Gwrthwynebiad.] Gwrthwynebiad, oes. Gohiriaf y bleidlais o dan yr eitem hon tan y cyfnod pleidleisio.
Official English translation
The proposal is to agree the motion without amendment. Does any Member object? [Objection.] There are objections. I will therefore defer voting under this item until voting time.
5. Reform UK Debate: Childcare offer cy
Nawr, cyn symud ymlaen i'r ddadl nesaf—James Evans.
Official English translation
Now, before we move on to our next debate—James Evans.
5. Reform UK Debate: Childcare offer en
Diolch, James, and thank you for approaching the chair here to explain your point of order. I can give you my ruling on this occasion. The comments made by Members about the nature of the motion are points of debate rather than points of order, so such disagreements in the course of debates are a normal part of parliamentary proceedings. So, I thank you for raising this, and it's a good example of how points of order can be raised here within the Senedd, and how the rulings, then, of the Llywydd are final. Diolch yn fawr iawn.
6. Welsh Labour Debate: School support staff negotiating body cy
Rydyn ni'n symud ymlaen nawr at ddadl Llafur Cymru: corff negodi staff cymorth ysgolion.
Official English translation
We move now to the Welsh Labour debate: the school support staff negotiation body.
6. Welsh Labour Debate: School support staff negotiating body cy
Diolch. Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn y cynnig heb ei ddiwygio? A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? [Gwrthwynebiad.] Gohiriaf y bleidlais o dan yr eitem hon tan y cyfnod pleidleisio.
Official English translation
Diolch. The proposal is to agree the motion without amendment. Does any Member object? [Objection.] I will therefore defer voting under this item until voting time.
6. Welsh Labour Debate: School support staff negotiating body cy
Byddwn ni'n symud ymlaen nawr. Byddwn nawr yn cymryd egwyl byr cyn symud i'r cyfnod pleidleisio.
Official English translation
We will now move on. We will take a short break before proceeding to voting time.
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Galwaf am bleidlais ar y cynnig a gyflwynwyd yn enw Dan Thomas. Os gwrthodir y cynnig, byddwn yn pleidleisio ar y gwelliannau a gyflwynwyd i'r cynnig. Agorwch y bleidlais. Caewch y bleidlais.
Official English translation
I now call for a vote on the motion tabled in the name of Dan Thomas. If the proposal is not agreed, we will vote on the amendments tabled to the motion. Open the vote. Close the vote.
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In favour 39, abstain none, against 52. The motion is not agreed.
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Rydym ni'n symud nawr i'r bleidlais nesaf. Galwaf am bleidlais ar welliant 1, a gyflwynwyd yn enw Heledd Fychan. Agorwch y bleidlais. Caewch y bleidlais.
Official English translation
We move now to our next vote. I call for a vote on amendment 1, tabled in the name of Heledd Fychan. Open the vote. Close the vote.
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In favour 50, abstain none, and against 41. Amendment 1 is agreed.
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Galwaf am bleidlais ar welliant 2 a gyflwynwyd yn enw Lynne Neagle. Agorwch y bleidlais. Caewch y bleidlais.
Official English translation
I call for a vote on amendment 2, tabled in the name of Lynne Neagle. Open the vote. Close the vote.
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Votes for 88, abstentions three, and against zero. So, amendment 2 is carried.
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Galwaf nawr am bleidlais ar y cynnig wedi'i ddiwygio.
Official English translation
I now call for a vote on the motion as amended.
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Agorwch y bleidlais. Caewch y bleidlais.
Official English translation
Open the vote. Close the vote.
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In favour 61, abstentions one, against 29.
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Mae'r cynnig wedi'i ddiwygio wedi'i dderbyn.
Official English translation
The motion as amended is agreed.
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Nesaf, rydyn ni'n symud i bleidleisio ar y ddadl nesaf. Galwaf am bleidlais ar y cynnig a gyflwynwyd yn enw Lynne Neagle. Agorwch y bleidlais. Caewch y bleidlais.
Official English translation
We will now move to our votes on the next debate. I call for a vote on the motion tabled in the name of Lynne Neagle. Open the vote. Close the vote.
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In favour 17, abstentions 74, and against zero.
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Mae'r cynnig wedi'i wrthod. Sori, mae'r cynnig wedi'i dderbyn. Mae'n ddrwg gen i.
Official English translation
The motion is therefore not agreed. I apologise, the motion is agreed. I do apologise.
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Symudaf yn awr i ddadl fer heddiw, a galwaf ar Cristiana Emsley i siarad am y pwnc a ddewiswyd ganddi. Os yw Aelodau'n gadael y Siambr, ewch yn dawel, os gwelwch yn dda. Cristiana Emsley.
Official English translation
We will now move to this afternoon's short debate, and I call on Cristiana Emsley to speak on the topic she has chosen. If Members are leaving the Chamber, please do so quietly. Cristiana Emsley.
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Galwaf yn awr ar y Dirprwy Brif Weinidog a Gweinidog Cabinet dros Gyfiawnder Cymdeithasol a Chydraddoldeb i ymateb i'r ddadl. Weinidog.
Official English translation
I now call on the Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Minister for Social Justice and Equality to reply to the debate. Minister.
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Diolch i'r Gweinidog Cabinet. Diolch, Aelodau, hefyd. Daw hynny â thrafodion heddiw i ben.
Official English translation
Thank you to the Cabinet Minister. Thank you, Members. That brings today's proceedings to a close.
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1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Prynhawn da, bawb. Croeso i chi i gyd.
Official English translation
Good afternoon and welcome to you all.
1. Questions to the First Minister en
Welcome, everybody. Could I just say a particular welcome to Dr David Wilson, the clerk of the New Zealand Parliament, and others who are in the gallery today? You're all very welcome indeed.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Rydym ni'n symud nawr i'r cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog, ac yn gyntaf, cwestiwn 1, Andrew Griffin.
Official English translation
We move now to questions to the First Minister, and the first question is from Andrew Griffin.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Galwaf yn awr ar arweinwyr y pleidiau i holi'r Prif Weinidog ac, yn gyntaf, arweinydd Reform UK, Dan Thomas.
Official English translation
I now call the party leaders to question the First Minister and, first of all, the leader of Reform UK, Dan Thomas.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Arweinydd Llafur Cymru, Ken Skates.
Official English translation
Leader of Welsh Labour, Ken Skates.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Arweinydd y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig, Darren Millar.
Official English translation
The leader of the Welsh Conservatives, Darren Millar.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Cwestiwn 9 [OQ64088]—tynnwyd yn ôl. Felly, cwestiwn 10, Cristiana Emsley.
Official English translation
Question 9 [OQ64088] is withdrawn. Question 10, Cristiana Emsley.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Ac yn olaf, Brif Weinidog, cwestiwn 12, Jane Dodds.
Official English translation
And finally, First Minister, question 12, Jane Dodds.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Diolch yn fawr iawn, Brif Weinidog ac Aelodau'r Senedd hefyd.
Official English translation
Thank you very much, First Minister and Senedd Members too.
2. Business Statement and Announcement cy
Rydym ni'n symud yn awr at y datganiad a chyhoeddiad busnes. Galwaf ar y Trefnydd, Heledd Fychan.
Official English translation
We now move to the business statement and announcement. I call on the Trefnydd, Heledd Fychan.
2. Business Statement and Announcement cy
Mae'n ddrwg gen i, Janet, ond mae'n rhy hir nawr.
Official English translation
I'm sorry, Janet, but you've taken too long.
2. Business Statement and Announcement en
It's gone too long. Trefnydd.
2. Business Statement and Announcement cy
Ac yn olaf, Drefnydd, James Evans.
Official English translation
Finally, Trefnydd, James Evans.
2. Business Statement and Announcement cy
Diolch, Drefnydd.
Official English translation
Thank you, Trefnydd.
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Rydyn ni'n symud ymlaen nawr at ddatganiad gan y Gweinidog Cabinet dros Lywodraeth Lleol, Tai a Chynllunio: blaenoriaethau ar gyfer llywodraeth leol, tai a chynllunio. Galwaf ar y Gweinidog Cabinet, Siân Gwenllian.
Official English translation
We will now move to a statement by the Cabinet Minister for Local Government, Housing and Planning: priorities for local government, housing and planning. I call on the Cabinet Minister, Siân Gwenllian.
5. Statement by the Deputy Minister for Transport: Key Infrastructure Resilience en
Janet.
5. Statement by the Deputy Minister for Transport: Key Infrastructure Resilience en
Thank you very much. Now, with your forbearance, colleagues, we're going to slightly change the order here, because James Evans, fair play to him, found himself cast in the role of frontbench spokesperson on transport for a moment there. We're actually going to go to the last frontbench spokesperson now—Jason O'Connell.
5. Statement by the Deputy Minister for Transport: Key Infrastructure Resilience cy
Rydyn ni'n symud nawr at gyfraniadau un funud. Paul Rock.
Official English translation
We now move to one-minute contributions. Paul Rock.
5. Statement by the Deputy Minister for Transport: Key Infrastructure Resilience cy
Ac yn olaf, yn fyr iawn, Darren Millar.
Official English translation
And finally, and very briefly, Darren Millar.
5. Statement by the Deputy Minister for Transport: Key Infrastructure Resilience cy
Diolch, Ddirprwy Weinidog. Daw hynny â thrafodion heddiw i ben. Diolch yn fawr iawn.
Official English translation
Thank you, Deputy Minister. That brings today's proceedings to a close. Thank you very much.
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1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Croeso nôl, bawb. Prynhawn da i chi i gyd. Rydym ni'n symud nawr yn syth i'r cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog. Cwestiwn 1, Art Wright.
Official English translation
Welcome back, everyone. A very good afternoon to you all. We will move immediately to questions to the First Minister, and the first question is from Art Wright.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Galwaf yn awr ar arweinwyr y pleidiau i holi'r Prif Weinidog. Arweinydd Reform UK, Dan Thomas.
Official English translation
I now call on the party leaders to question the First Minister. Leader of Reform UK, Dan Thomas.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Arweinydd Llafur Cymru, Ken Skates.
Official English translation
The leader of Welsh Labour, Ken Skates.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Arweinydd y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig, Darren Millar.
Official English translation
The leader of the Welsh Conservatives, Darren Millar.
1. Questions to the First Minister en
Ask your question, Janet.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Cwestiwn 9—. O, mae'n ddrwg gen i.
Official English translation
Question 9—. Oh, I'm sorry.
1. Questions to the First Minister en
Your supplementary.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Cwestiwn 9, Shav Taj.
Official English translation
Question 9, Shav Taj.
1. Questions to the First Minister en
Put the question first.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Ac yn olaf, James Evans.
Official English translation
And finally, James Evans.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Diolch, Brif Weinidog. Diolch, Aelodau, hefyd.
Official English translation
Thank you, First Minister. Thank you, Members, too.
1. Questions to the First Minister en
We covered a lot of questions there. Diolch yn fawr iawn.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Cyn mynd ymlaen, galwaf ar Andrew R.T. Davies.
Official English translation
Before we move on, I call on Andrew R.T. Davies.
1. Questions to the First Minister en
Andrew, thank you for having a quiet message with me. You want to clarify something on the record.
1. Questions to the First Minister cy
Diolch yn fawr iawn.
Official English translation
Thank you very much.
3. Motion to appoint the Senedd Commission cy
Nesaf, eitem 3, cynnig i benodi Comisiwn y Senedd. Galwaf ar aelod o'r Pwyllgor Busnes i wneud y cynnig yn ffurfiol. Heledd Fychan.
Official English translation
Next we move to item 3, a motion to appoint the Senedd Commission. I call on a member of the Business Committee to move the motion formally. Heledd Fychan.
3. Motion to appoint the Senedd Commission cy
Diolch. Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn y cynnig? A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? Nac oes. Felly, derbynnir y cynnig yn unol â Rheol Sefydlog 12.36.
Official English translation
Thank you. The proposal is to agree the motion. Does any Member object? There is no objection. Therefore, the motion is agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.
4. Business Statement and Announcement cy
Eitem 4, y datganiad a chyhoeddiad busnes. Galwaf ar y Trefnydd, Heledd Fychan.
Official English translation
Item 4, the business statement and announcement. I call on the Trefnydd, Heledd Fychan.
4. Business Statement and Announcement cy
Diolch yn fawr iawn. Galwaf ar Mair Rowlands.
Official English translation
Thank you very much. I call on Mair Rowlands.
4. Business Statement and Announcement cy
Ac yn olaf, Drefnydd, Jayne Bryant.
Official English translation
And finally, Trefnydd, Jayne Bryant.
4. Business Statement and Announcement cy
Diolch yn fawr, Drefnydd.
Official English translation
Thank you very much, Trefnydd.
5. Statement by the Cabinet Minister for Health and Care: Health and Care Priorities cy
Rydyn ni'n symud ymlaen nawr at yr eitem nesaf, y datganiad gan y Gweinidog Cabinet dros Iechyd a Gofal: blaenoriaethau ar gyfer iechyd a gofal. Galwaf nawr ar y Gweinidog Cabinet dros Iechyd a Gofal, Mabon ap Gwynfor.
Official English translation
We'll move on now to our next item, which is a statement by the Cabinet Minister for Health and Care: health and care priorities. I now call on the Cabinet Minister for Health and Care, Mabon ap Gwynfor.
5. Statement by the Cabinet Minister for Health and Care: Health and Care Priorities cy
Diolch. Rwyf nawr yn symud i gyfraniadau o un funud, a galwaf ar Jane Dodds.
Official English translation
Thank you. We now move to one-minute contributions, and I call on Jane Dodds.
5. Statement by the Cabinet Minister for Health and Care: Health and Care Priorities en
Diolch. Minister, Members, I know I used to be the worst offender when I was in that position—[Interruption.] Thank you. But if we can keep the contributions short, and the answers as short as possible as well, though we want the information, we can try and get through as many Members as possible.
5. Statement by the Cabinet Minister for Health and Care: Health and Care Priorities cy
Diolch yn fawr iawn, Weinidog Cabinet.
Official English translation
Thank you very much, Cabinet Minister.
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Rydyn ni'n symud ymlaen i'r eitem nesaf, datganiad gan y Gweinidog Cabinet dros Fenter, Cysylltedd ac Ynni: blaenoriaethau ar gyfer mentrau, cysylltedd ac ynni. Galwaf ar y Gweinidog Cabinet dros Fenter, Cysylltedd ac Ynni, Adam Price.
Official English translation
We now move on to our next item, a statement by the Cabinet Minister for Enterprise, Connectivity and Energy: enterprise, connectivity and energy priorities. I call on the Cabinet Minister for Enterprise, Connectivity and Energy, Adam Price.
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The Cabinet Minister now has the distinction of the first quotation from Max Boyce of the seventh Senedd term. [Laughter.] We look forward to many more.
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Rydyn ni'n symud nawr ymlaen at gyfraniadau o un funud, ac i ddechrau, Kiera Marshall.
Official English translation
We move on now to one-minute contributions, and the first of those is from Kiera Marshall.
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Diolch yn fawr iawn, Weinidog Cabinet.
Official English translation
Thank you very much, Cabinet Minister.
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With apologies to the few Members who are remaining, we have gone over time already, but we covered a lot of questions there. My thanks to all Members for their patience, and to Ministers as well for answering as fully and as quickly as they could.
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Nid oes gennym gyfnod pleidleisio heddiw, felly daw hynny â thrafodion heddiw i ben. Diolch yn fawr iawn.
Official English translation
There will be no votes this afternoon, so that brings today's proceedings to a close. Thank you very much.
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1. Motion to appoint Members to the Business Committee cy
Croeso cynnes i bawb, a chroeso i'r sesiwn hwn o'r Senedd y prynhawn yma. Rydyn ni'n dechrau gyda'r cynnig i benodi Aelodau i'r Pwyllgor Busnes. Felly, galwaf ar y Trefnydd i wneud y cynnig—Heledd Fychan.
Official English translation
A very warm welcome to you all to this session of the Senedd this afternoon. We begin with a motion to appoint Members to the Business Committee. I therefore call on the Trefnydd to move the motion—Heledd Fychan.
1. Motion to appoint Members to the Business Committee cy
Diolch yn fawr iawn, Heledd. Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn y cynnig i benodi aelodau i'r Pwyllgor Busnes? A oes unrhyw wrthwynebiad? Nac oes. Felly, derbynnir y cynnig yn unol â Rheol Sefydlog 12.36.
Official English translation
Thank you, Heledd. The proposal is to appoint members to the Business Committee. Does any Member object? No. The motion is therefore agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.
2. Proposal under Standing Order 12.10(ii) for items to be taken at the next Plenary meeting cy
Nesaf—. Rydyn ni'n joio'r dechnoleg yma. [Chwerthin.] Rydyn ni'n symud nawr i'r cynnig o dan Reol Sefydlog 12.10(ii) i eitemau gael eu cymryd yn y Cyfarfod Llawn nesaf. Galwaf ar y Trefnydd i wneud y cynnig—Heledd Fychan.
Official English translation
Next—. We do enjoy the use of the technology here. [Laughter.] So, we will move now to the proposal under Standing Order 12.10(ii) for items to be taken at the next Plenary meeting. I call on the Trefnydd to move the motion—Heledd Fychan.
2. Proposal under Standing Order 12.10(ii) for items to be taken at the next Plenary meeting cy
Diolch yn fawr iawn, Heledd. Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn y cynnig? A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? Nac oes. Diolch yn fawr iawn i chi i gyd.
Official English translation
Thank you very much, Heledd. The proposal is to agree the motion. Does any Member object? No. Thank you, all, very much.
3. Statement by the First Minister: The First Minister's Priorities cy
Felly, nawr rydym ni'n symud i eitem 3 ar yr agenda. Eitem 3 ar yr agenda yw'r datganiad gan y Prif Weinidog: blaenoriaethau'r Prif Weinidog. Galwaf ar y Prif Weinidog, Rhun ap Iorwerth.
Official English translation
So, we now move to item 3 on our agenda. And item 3 is a statement by the First Minister on the First Minister's priorities. I call on the First Minister, Rhun ap Iorwerth.
3. Statement by the First Minister: The First Minister's Priorities cy
Diolch, Brif Weinidog. Nawr, yn unol â'r drefn arferol, bydd gan y siaradwyr cyntaf o bob grŵp bum munud i gyfrannu, a bydd gan bob siaradwr arall un funud. Nawr, galwaf ar Dan Thomas.
Official English translation
Thank you, First Minister. In line with standard practice, the first speaker from each group will have five minutes to contribute, and all other speakers will have one minute. I now call on Dan Thomas.
3. Statement by the First Minister: The First Minister's Priorities cy
Galwaf ar Ken Skates.
Official English translation
I call on Ken Skates.
3. Statement by the First Minister: The First Minister's Priorities cy
Diolch. Nesaf, Darren Millar.
Official English translation
Thank you. Next, Darren Millar.
3. Statement by the First Minister: The First Minister's Priorities cy
Diolch. Dwi'n rhoi llawer o latitude y prynhawn yma. Ond nawr, yn bwysig iawn, i'r Aelodau eraill, un funud, os gwelwch yn dda—un funud. Ac yn gyntaf, Zaynub Akbar.
Official English translation
Thank you. I am giving a great deal of latitude this afternoon. But now, importantly, for other Members, you will have just one minute. And first of all, I call on Zaynub Akbar.
3. Statement by the First Minister: The First Minister's Priorities cy
Beth yw'r gair am penultimate yn Gymraeg? Laura Anne Jones.
Official English translation
What's the word for 'penultimate' in Welsh? Laura Anne Jones.
3. Statement by the First Minister: The First Minister's Priorities cy
Ac yn olaf heddiw, Brif Weinidog, galwaf ar Sara Crowley.
Official English translation
And finally today, First Minister, I call on Sara Crowley.
3. Statement by the First Minister: The First Minister's Priorities cy
Diolch, Brif Weinidog, a diolch, bawb, hefyd.
Official English translation
Thank you, First Minister, and thank you to you all, too.
3. Statement by the First Minister: The First Minister's Priorities en
I will try my hardest here to make sure that I call as many people as I can—both frontbench speakers, from all parties, and also as many backbenchers as I can. We haven't succeeded today, but we've got through a good few questions. So, thank you so much for keeping your questions succinct, and your answers succinct as well, whilst going into the detail that needs to be done.
3. Statement by the First Minister: The First Minister's Priorities cy
Daw hynny â thrafodion heddiw i ben. Dyddiad y Cyfarfod Llawn nesaf fydd 2 Mehefin. Diolch i bawb.
Official English translation
That brings today's proceedings to a close. The date of the next Plenary meeting will be 2 June. Thank you, all.
3. Statement by the First Minister: The First Minister's Priorities en
Have a good recess. Bye.
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1. Election of the Presiding Officer under Standing Order 6 cy
Diolch yn fawr iawn, Llywydd. Yn gyntaf oll, a gaf i longyfarch holl Aelodau'r Senedd, newydd a hen, ar eu hetholiad? Ymhellach, rwy'n ymestyn fy niolch i'r ymgeiswyr hynny a fu'n aflwyddiannus. Mae'n gofyn am wydnwch, dewrder a dyfalbarhad i roi eich enw ymlaen ar gyfer unrhyw etholiad, a heb y bobl hynny sy'n barod i wneud hynny, ni allai ein democratiaeth weithio.
Official English translation
Thank you very much, Llywydd. First of all, may I congratulate all of the Members of the Senedd, new and old, on being elected? Further to that, I want to extend my thanks to those candidates who were unsuccessful this time. It calls for resilience, bravery and diligence to put your name forward for any election, and without those people who are willing to do so, our democracy could not function.
1. Election of the Presiding Officer under Standing Order 6 en
For those Members of the Senedd who do not know me, I will offer a thankfully brief summary of my experience and skills of relevance to the role of Llywydd. I spent nearly 15 years in Westminster doing what I sometimes lightheartedly call my apprenticeship for the Senedd. During that time, I served as a Government Minister and a shadow Minister in key roles. I took through complex legislation and engaged constructively with Welsh Government Ministers here in the then Assembly, and I chaired powerful and influential scrutiny committees. When I came to the Senedd, I sought to contribute to the work of this democratic institution as a proud backbench Member—and never forget the importance of that role—also as Chair of the Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee, as a member of two committees on Senedd reform, as a Government Minister and Cabinet Secretary, and throughout all of this, extending my knowledge and understanding of Standing Orders and Senedd procedures, which I believe has given me the depth and breadth of skills and the ability to take on this important role. I chose to come back to Wales. I resigned as a Member of the UK Parliament to stand for this Senedd in 2016. I am one of the few to make that journey with real intent and purpose. I did so because I believe in this Senedd, this beating heart of our national democracy here in Wales. Our Senedd Cymru is still a very young Parliament, but it is growing in strength and in confidence. I believe in the power of this democratic institution to improve the lives of the people of Wales, through giving voice to the diverse communities of Wales, through the representatives here elected, and by holding Government to account through effective and constructive scrutiny and challenge.
1. Election of the Presiding Officer under Standing Order 6 cy
Os caiff y cyfrifoldeb o fod yn Llywydd ei roi i mi gan Aelodau'r Senedd, rwy'n addo gweithio gyda'r holl Aelodau i sicrhau bod ein Senedd yn cwrdd â disgwyliadau uchel y sefydliad hwn ac, wrth inni fynd i seithfed tymor y Senedd, fod y Senedd yn berthnasol i bob rhan o Gymru ac yn ymgysylltu â nhw, a bod ein democratiaeth yn cael ei chryfhau trwy ein hymdrech gyffredin fel seneddwyr.
Official English translation
If the responsibility of being Llywydd is given to me by the Members of this Senedd, I pledge to work with every Member of the Senedd to ensure that our Senedd meets the high expectations of this institution and, as we move into the seventh Senedd term, that the Senedd is relevant to every part of Wales and engages with everyone in Wales, and that our democracy is strengthened through our common interests and efforts as parliamentarians.
1. Election of the Presiding Officer under Standing Order 6 en
I will carry out this role with hallmark openness and collaboration, fairness and impartiality, always keen to ensure that this Senedd and all of us who have the privilege of representing our constituents do so with respect for each other in the way that we engage and we debate, respect for our democratic processes, and respect for the people of Wales in all our great and glorious diversity.
1. Election of the Presiding Officer under Standing Order 6 cy
Felly, diolch.
Official English translation
Therefore, thank you.
1. Election of the Presiding Officer under Standing Order 6 en
My thanks to colleagues from across the Siambr for urging me to put my name forward. If elected, I will do my best for all of you and for the Senedd, and, through this, the very best for the people of Wales.
1. Election of the Presiding Officer under Standing Order 6 cy
Diolch i chi i gyd.
Official English translation
My thanks to you all.
1. Election of the Presiding Officer under Standing Order 6 cy
Diolch yn fawr iawn i chi i gyd.
Official English translation
Thank you all very much.
1. Election of the Presiding Officer under Standing Order 6 en
Thank you very much indeed for your trust and confidence in me.
1. Election of the Presiding Officer under Standing Order 6 cy
Hefyd, diolch yn fawr iawn, Elin. [Cymeradwyaeth.] Diolch i chi am eich stiwardiaeth ofalus ac arbenigol o'r Senedd hon. Mae'n lle sydd wedi newid yn fawr, ac mae'n well fyth o'ch cyfnod chi fel Llywydd. Diolch yn fawr iawn.
Official English translation
Also, I would like to thank Elin. [Applause.] Thank you for your careful and expert stewardship of this Welsh Parliament. It is a place that has changed greatly, and it is even better for your time as Llywydd. Thank you very much.
2. Election of the Deputy Presiding Officer under Standing Order 6 cy
Nawr te, i'r busnes nesaf. Rydyn ni'n symud ymlaen nawr at ethol y Dirprwy Lywydd. Hoffwn atgoffa'r Aelodau, yn unol â Rheol Sefydlog 6.12, mai dim ond os yw'r enwebiadau o grŵp gwleidyddol gwahanol i mi y bydd enwebiadau yn ddilys ar gyfer Dirprwy Lywydd. Felly, rwy'n gwahodd enwebiadau o dan Reol Sefydlog 6.6.
Official English translation
Now we move to the next item of business. We move now to the election of a Deputy Presiding Officer. I would remind Members that, in accordance with Standing Order 6.12, nominations for a Deputy Presiding Officer are only valid if a nominee is from a different political group to my own. I therefore invite nominations under Standing Order 6.6.
2. Election of the Deputy Presiding Officer under Standing Order 6 cy
Diolch yn fawr iawn. A oes gennym Aelod nad yw o'r un grŵp gwleidyddol i eilio'r enwebiad?
Official English translation
Thank you very much. Do we have a Member who is not from the same political group to second the nomination?
2. Election of the Deputy Presiding Officer under Standing Order 6 cy
Diolch. A oes unrhyw enwebiadau eraill? Na—
Official English translation
Thank you. Are there any other nominations? No—
2. Election of the Deputy Presiding Officer under Standing Order 6 en
Bear with me, I'm new to this. [Laughter.] I do not want to get this wrong.
2. Election of the Deputy Presiding Officer under Standing Order 6 cy
Gwelaf nad oes enwebiadau eraill. Cynigiaf, felly, yn unol â Rheol Sefydlog 6.8, bod—. Mae'n ddrwg gen i. Gan nad oes gwrthwynebiad—[Torri ar draws.] Na. Mae'n ddrwg gen i. Gan nad oes enwebiadau eraill, cynigiaf, felly, yn unol â Rheol Sefydlog 6.8, fod Kerry Ferguson wedi ei hethol yn Ddirprwy Lywydd. A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? Nac oes. Gan nad oes gwrthwynebiad, rwyf yn datgan felly bod Kerry Ferguson wedi ei hethol yn Ddirprwy Lywydd Senedd Cymru. [Cymeradwyaeth.]
Official English translation
I see that there are no other nominations. I therefore propose, in accordance with Standing Order 6.8, that—. I do apologise. As there is no objection—[Interruption.] No. I do apologise. I see that there are no other nominations. I therefore propose, in accordance with Standing Order 6.8, that Kerry Ferguson is elected as Deputy Presiding Officer. Does any Member object? No. As there are no objections, I therefore declare that Kerry Ferguson is elected as Deputy Presiding Officer of the Welsh Parliament, Senedd Cymru. [Applause.]
Roll-call divisions, by sitting day
70 recorded votes. Official division result.
- For
- 0
- Against
- 0
- Abstain
- 0
- Did not vote
- 70
Counted by Siambr: a sum of the official division rows.
For Against Abstain Unlit desk: did not vote
3 divisions
Members' Legislative Debate under Standing Order 11.21(iv): An NHS first Bill
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- Motion Did not vote Agreed
Reform UK Debate: Prostate cancer strategy
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- Motion Did not vote Agreed
Welsh Labour Debate: The M4 around Newport
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- Motion Did not vote Agreed
3 divisions
Reform UK Debate: Local referendums on council tax rises
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- Motion Did not vote Not agreed
- Amendment 1tabled in the name of Heledd Fychan Did not vote Agreed
- Motion as amended Did not vote Agreed
6 divisions
Reform UK Debate: Regional rugby
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- Amendment 1tabled in the name of Heledd Fychan Did not vote Not agreed
- Motion Did not vote Not agreed
Reform UK Debate: Access to HMOs and social housing for foreign nationals
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- Motion Did not vote Not agreed
- Amendment 1tabled in the name of Heledd Fychan a Lynne Neagle Did not vote Agreed
- Motion as amended Did not vote Agreed
Member Debate under Standing Order 11.21(iv): Family Drug and Alcohol Courts
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- Motion Did not vote Agreed
1 division
Debate: Fiscal Reform
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- Motion Did not vote Agreed
4 divisions
Reform UK Debate: Default 20 mph speed limit
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- Motion Did not vote Not agreed
- Amendment 1tabled in the name of Heledd Fychan Did not vote Agreed
- Motion as amended Did not vote Agreed
Welsh Conservatives Debate: The defence sector
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- Motion Did not vote Agreed
5 divisions
Reform UK Debate: Wales and the United Kingdom
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- Amendment 2tabled in the name of Lynne Neagle Did not vote Not agreed
- Motion as amended Did not vote Agreed
- Motion Did not vote Not agreed
- Amendment 1tabled in the name of Heledd Fychan Did not vote Agreed
Welsh Labour Debate: Further education
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- Motion Did not vote Agreed
10 divisions
Reform UK Debate: Grooming gangs
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- Motion Did not vote Not agreed
- Amendment 1tabled in the name of Heledd Fychan Did not vote Agreed
- Amendment 2tabled in the name of Paul Davies Did not vote Not agreed
- Motion as amended Did not vote Agreed
Reform UK Debate: Cwm Taf Morgannwg University Health Board health visitor pay dispute
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- Motion Did not vote Not agreed
- Amendment 1tabled in the name of Heledd Fychan Did not vote Agreed
- Amendment 2tabled in the name of Heledd Fychan Did not vote Not agreed
- Amendment 4tabled in the name of Lynne Neagle Did not vote Agreed
- Motion as amended Did not vote Not agreed
- Amendment 3tabled in the name of Paul Davies Did not vote Not agreed
5 divisions
Welsh Conservatives Debate: Deposit-return scheme
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- Motion Did not vote Not agreed
- Amendment 1tabled in the name of Heledd Fychan Did not vote Agreed
- Motion as amended Did not vote Agreed
Reform UK Debate: Bovine TB
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- Motion Did not vote Agreed
Member Debate under Standing Order 11.21(iv): Young people and employment
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- Motion Did not vote Agreed
2 divisions
Legislative Consent Motion: Steel Industry (Nationalisation) Bill
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- Motion Did not vote Agreed
Debate: The First Supplementary Budget 2026-27
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- Motion Did not vote Not agreed
4 divisions
Member Debate under Standing Order 11.21(iv): Ophthalmology services
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- Motion Did not vote Agreed
Reform UK Debate: The tourism sector
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- Motion Did not vote Not agreed
- Amendment 1tabled in the name of Heledd Fychan Did not vote Agreed
- Motion as amended Did not vote Agreed
4 divisions
Debate: Fair Funding
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- Amendment 1tabled in the name of Lynne Neagle Did not vote Not agreed
- Amendment 2tabled in the name of Llŷr Powell Did not vote Not agreed
- Amendment 3tabled in the name of Paul Davies Did not vote Not agreed
- Motion Did not vote Not agreed
4 divisions
Reform UK Debate: Nation of Sanctuary
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- Amendment 1tabled in the name of Heledd Fychan Did not vote Agreed
- Motion as amended Did not vote Agreed
- Motion Did not vote Not agreed
Welsh Labour Debate: Funding for additional learning needs in the first Supplementary Budget 2026-27
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- Motion Did not vote Agreed
10 divisions
Welsh Conservatives Debate: Hospital services and hospital closures
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- Motion Did not vote Not agreed
- Amendment 1tabled in the name of Heledd Fychan Did not vote Not agreed
- Amendment 2tabled in the name of Lynne Neagle Did not vote Agreed
- Amendment 3tabled in the name of Llŷr Powell Did not vote Agreed
- Amendment 4tabled in the name of Lynne Neagle Did not vote Not agreed
- Motion as amended Did not vote Agreed
Reform UK Debate: A Welsh Rivers Act
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- Motion Did not vote Not agreed
- Amendment 1tabled in the name of Heledd Fychan Did not vote Not agreed
- Amendment 3tabled in the name of Paul Davies Did not vote Not agreed
- Amendment 2tabled in the name of Lynne Neagle Did not vote Not agreed
4 divisions
Reform UK Debate: Government international spending
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- Motion Did not vote Not agreed
- Amendment 1tabled in the name of Heledd Fychan Did not vote Agreed
- Motion as amended Did not vote Agreed
Reform UK Debate: Statutory register for lobbyists
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- Motion Did not vote Agreed
5 divisions
Reform UK Debate: Childcare offer
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- Motion Did not vote Not agreed
- Amendment 1tabled in the name of Heledd Fychan Did not vote Agreed
- Amendment 2tabled in the name of Lynne Neagle Did not vote Agreed
- Motion as amended Did not vote Agreed
Welsh Labour Debate: School support staff negotiating body
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- Motion Did not vote Agreed